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You know it. My mom was born and raised in Mt Dennis, Crayden Ave was named after her family and she lived beside Kodak Eastman. She also lived on the infamous Raymore Dr during Hurricane Hazel but survived. That shop was so distinctive but I got my first CCM at the shop on John St near Lawrence.
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Hi all. I need to get up to 10 posts to post pictures but I bought a project bike last week. I plan to do a build thread on it and I'll be asking a bunch of questions. I don't know exact year but I believe it to be a late 50's, pre-Raleigh, Birmingham Hercules. Unfortunately someone put a bunch of Schwinn parts on it so I'm unsure how much is original and what's not. I essentially bought it for the frame and crank set. I'm looking forward to learning from you all.
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Hi all. I need to get up to 10 posts to post pictures but I bought a project bike last week. I plan to do a build thread on it and I'll be asking a bunch of questions. I don't know exact year but I believe it to be a late 50's, pre-Raleigh, Birmingham Hercules. Unfortunately someone put a bunch of Schwinn parts on it so I'm unsure how much is original and what's not. I essentially bought it for the frame and crank set. I'm looking forward to learning from you all.
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Nice... I’ll post pics of my 67 Raleigh Sports also. That one I’m going to keep as original as possible as it is pretty much completely original except for the saddle which is vinyl mattress.
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Hmmm, owner came off the 250 price down to a good 175 asking. Outside of the 70s pedals, I don't see anything wrong in the picture. Looks like a good one. If I didn't just buy the Rudge, I'd consider it.
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bi...739777361.html
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Hmmm, owner came off the 250 price down to a good 175 asking. Outside of the 70s pedals, I don't see anything wrong in the picture. Looks like a good one. If I didn't just buy the Rudge, I'd consider it.
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bi...739777361.html
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It's tall, complete, Dynohub (reversed), chaincase, period trigger (I assume) and
even the saddle and rims look good.
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You know it. My mom was born and raised in Mt Dennis, Crayden Ave was named after her family and she lived beside Kodak Eastman. She also lived on the infamous Raymore Dr during Hurricane Hazel but survived. That shop was so distinctive but I got my first CCM at the shop on John St near Lawrence.
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Hmmm, owner came off the 250 price down to a good 175 asking. Outside of the 70s pedals, I don't see anything wrong in the picture. Looks like a good one. If I didn't just buy the Rudge, I'd consider it.
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bi...739777361.html
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bi...739777361.html
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1962 Royal 3-Speed
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Rear view
Cuts a nice profile!
Decals revealed after removing Batman tape and metal head badge
Sturmey Archer AW. Stamped "62" "2"
Front rim.
Front and rear fenders. Decal almost entirely worn off rear.
Hi, again. I think I can post photos now that I've achieved ten posts! I had all of this written out prior to joining this forum, so bear with me if it's kinda long. I found this bike, or should I say it found me, at a local thrift store. I knew it seemed something unique, but didn't pull the trigger on buying it for the $40 they originally wanted for it, and it looked like a kid had previously owned it as it had Batman duct tape over the seat and down tubes, but after a week of it sitting there and no one wanting it we negotiated a $25 price and it was mine! When I saw it originally I had taken some pictures of and had tried doing some research online about what kind of bike this might be. I Googled the "Royal" head badge and could only find one photo by someone selling a crusty one on U.K. Ebay for four Pounds. I did find all sorts of similar logos though, but nothing else that matched. I determined, I think, it was probably something made by Raleigh or a subsidiary. Through Sheldon Brown's site I found out how to determine it's age via the Sturmey Archer gear hub. It was indeed stamped "62" "2" "AW". So, 1962! Heck, that's old! I should know as I was born in 1964. ;-) I found the stamped serial number under the seat and it reads "26269 N PH". For some reason Sheldon Brown's and other sites skip how to decode serial #s from 1962 and 1963. So, anyone's guess is as good as mine what it means. I think since there is a "2" "62" close to each other at the beginning and that's the same as what's on the gear hub, I'm going with 1962 as year of build. The "N" some would saw could be made in Nottingham. The decal on the rear fender is mostly rubbed off, and I read on another site that's where it might say Nottingham. No idea about the "PH", well I do have a theory. After I cleaned off the Batman tape one could see remnants of the decal on the seat post of what appears to say "Made in England for someone Harris something building in New York". Well, I did find one other mention online of another person having a bike from this year and his decal read, "Made in England For D.P. Harris HDW & MFG Rollfast Building New York". Yup, that's what this one appears so say too. Does the "PH" on the stamped serial# mean P Harris? Furthering this theory, the only mention of a "Royal" brand on Brown's site says there was a "Royal Scot" (closest to Royal on the list) brand that was made for a major bicycle dealer in New York. So, that's my best guess. The bike was made in England by Raleigh for D.P. Harris (founder of the famous Rollfast bikes) in 1962. So, then, how did it get to Denver, Colorado? Someone thought enough of the bike to replace some parts at some point to keep it going; an aluminum USA Sunrim on the rear, a vinyl Avocet seat, a Nitto aluminum handle bar neck , Cheng Shin tires a added a nifty 1980s Union Dynamo front and rear light set (made in West Germany - it works!). I'm guessing the brake and gear cable lines and tubes may have been replaced too. Otherwise, best I can tell is everything else is original and I'm happy to report the thing rides great! The tires and tubes even are holding air after pumping them up and the gears and brakes work fine. I haven't really had to do anything but some cleaning, and I'll do more in the near future, plus lubricating. I love the rusty,rough patina. Anyway, that's the story so far on my 1962 Royal English 3-speed. I know it's a "B" brand Raleigh and probably not worth very much money, but it has character and I love it! If anyone has any info or corrections, please feel free to chime in.
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current state.
rear view
cuts a nice profile!
decals revealed after removing batman tape and metal head badge
sturmey archer aw. Stamped "62" "2"
front rim.
front and rear fenders. Decal almost entirely worn off rear.
hi, again. I think i can post photos now that i've achieved ten posts! I had all of this written out prior to joining this forum, so bear with me if it's kinda long. I found this bike, or should i say it found me, at a local thrift store. I knew it seemed something unique, but didn't pull the trigger on buying it for the $40 they originally wanted for it, and it looked like a kid had previously owned it as it had batman duct tape over the seat and down tubes, but after a week of it sitting there and no one wanting it we negotiated a $25 price and it was mine! When i saw it originally i had taken some pictures of and had tried doing some research online about what kind of bike this might be. I googled the "royal" head badge and could only find one photo by someone selling a crusty one on u.k. Ebay for four pounds. I did find all sorts of similar logos though, but nothing else that matched. I determined, i think, it was probably something made by raleigh or a subsidiary. Through sheldon brown's site i found out how to determine it's age via the sturmey archer gear hub. It was indeed stamped "62" "2" "aw". So, 1962! Heck, that's old! I should know as i was born in 1964. ;-) i found the stamped serial number under the seat and it reads "26269 n ph". For some reason sheldon brown's and other sites skip how to decode serial #s from 1962 and 1963. So, anyone's guess is as good as mine what it means. I think since there is a "2" "62" close to each other at the beginning and that's the same as what's on the gear hub, i'm going with 1962 as year of build. The "n" some would saw could be made in nottingham. The decal on the rear fender is mostly rubbed off, and i read on another site that's where it might say nottingham. No idea about the "ph", well i do have a theory. After i cleaned off the batman tape one could see remnants of the decal on the seat post of what appears to say "made in england for someone harris something building in new york". Well, i did find one other mention online of another person having a bike from this year and his decal read, "made in england for d.p. Harris hdw & mfg rollfast building new york". Yup, that's what this one appears so say too. Does the "ph" on the stamped serial# mean p harris? Furthering this theory, the only mention of a "royal" brand on brown's site says there was a "royal scot" (closest to royal on the list) brand that was made for a major bicycle dealer in new york. So, that's my best guess. The bike was made in england by raleigh for d.p. Harris (founder of the famous rollfast bikes) in 1962. So, then, how did it get to denver, colorado? Someone thought enough of the bike to replace some parts at some point to keep it going; an aluminum usa sunrim on the rear, a vinyl avocet seat, a nitto aluminum handle bar neck , cheng shin tires a added a nifty 1980s union dynamo front and rear light set (made in west germany - it works!). I'm guessing the brake and gear cable lines and tubes may have been replaced too. Otherwise, best i can tell is everything else is original and i'm happy to report the thing rides great! The tires and tubes even are holding air after pumping them up and the gears and brakes work fine. I haven't really had to do anything but some cleaning, and i'll do more in the near future, plus lubricating. I love the rusty,rough patina. Anyway, that's the story so far on my 1962 royal english 3-speed. I know it's a "b" brand raleigh and probably not worth very much money, but it has character and i love it! If anyone has any info or corrections, please feel free to chime in.
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Work starts soon on this "Sports" picked up earlier this summer. Hub says 72. Don't like the looks of the fully sheathed shift cable. This 23" mostly complete bike is being built for myself for a change. I will start a rebuild thread in the near future. Looks like it was sold at a Hardware/Gun/Bike? store.
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Sturmey Archer AW. Stamped "62" "2"Front and rear fenders. Decal almost entirely worn off rear.
Hi, again. I think I can post photos now that I've achieved ten posts! I had all of this written out prior to joining this forum, so bear with me if it's kinda long. I found this bike, or should I say it found me, at a local thrift store. I knew it seemed something unique, but didn't pull the trigger on buying it for the $40 they originally wanted for it, and it looked like a kid had previously owned it as it had Batman duct tape over the seat and down tubes, but after a week of it sitting there and no one wanting it we negotiated a $25 price and it was mine! When I saw it originally I had taken some pictures of and had tried doing some research online about what kind of bike this might be. I Googled the "Royal" head badge and could only find one photo by someone selling a crusty one on U.K. Ebay for four Pounds. I did find all sorts of similar logos though, but nothing else that matched. I determined, I think, it was probably something made by Raleigh or a subsidiary. Through Sheldon Brown's site I found out how to determine it's age via the Sturmey Archer gear hub. It was indeed stamped "62" "2" "AW". So, 1962! Heck, that's old! I should know as I was born in 1964. ;-) I found the stamped serial number under the seat and it reads "26269 N PH". For some reason Sheldon Brown's and other sites skip how to decode serial #s from 1962 and 1963. So, anyone's guess is as good as mine what it means. I think since there is a "2" "62" close to each other at the beginning and that's the same as what's on the gear hub, I'm going with 1962 as year of build. The "N" some would saw could be made in Nottingham. The decal on the rear fender is mostly rubbed off, and I read on another site that's where it might say Nottingham. No idea about the "PH", well I do have a theory. After I cleaned off the Batman tape one could see remnants of the decal on the seat post of what appears to say "Made in England for someone Harris something building in New York". Well, I did find one other mention online of another person having a bike from this year and his decal read, "Made in England For D.P. Harris HDW & MFG Rollfast Building New York". Yup, that's what this one appears so say too. Does the "PH" on the stamped serial# mean P Harris? Furthering this theory, the only mention of a "Royal" brand on Brown's site says there was a "Royal Scot" (closest to Royal on the list) brand that was made for a major bicycle dealer in New York. So, that's my best guess. The bike was made in England by Raleigh for D.P. Harris (founder of the famous Rollfast bikes) in 1962. So, then, how did it get to Denver, Colorado? Someone thought enough of the bike to replace some parts at some point to keep it going; an aluminum USA Sunrim on the rear, a vinyl Avocet seat, a Nitto aluminum handle bar neck , Cheng Shin tires a added a nifty 1980s Union Dynamo front and rear light set (made in West Germany - it works!). I'm guessing the brake and gear cable lines and tubes may have been replaced too. Otherwise, best I can tell is everything else is original and I'm happy to report the thing rides great! The tires and tubes even are holding air after pumping them up and the gears and brakes work fine. I haven't really had to do anything but some cleaning, and I'll do more in the near future, plus lubricating. I love the rusty,rough patina. Anyway, that's the story so far on my 1962 Royal English 3-speed. I know it's a "B" brand Raleigh and probably not worth very much money, but it has character and I love it! If anyone has any info or corrections, please feel free to chime in.
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Funny how you develop an appreciation for details like that after a while. The old pedals had thought and craftsmanship put into them. They put the extra effort into them even though the tooling was hand made. It mattered to them if they were graceful and well made. By the 60s, the curves and flared tops were gone. By the 70s it was more like...who cares?