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If you DON'T own a modern bicycle... Which would it be?

Old 03-30-20, 03:57 PM
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I'd say Renovo, but they went under two years ago. Shame, too, because they were awesome.

That being said, probably something from Eddy, a Specialized Roubaix (gimme a break--I'm five weeks away from 64). Or, since I'm still in love with steel & a proper horizontal top tube, Tommassini. Any one would have to be Chorus or Record outfitted.
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Old 03-30-20, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy1988 View Post
Howdy folks!

Maybe a fun thread idea, maybe not... I currently only own vintage bicycles, but have had a couple of new or newish ones in the past. I am bored and perusing some of the new technology and wondering what I would go for if I were in the market for something fresh. I haven't chosen yet but will come back with some idea!

So, my question is this... For those of you out there like me, who currently do not own a modern bicycle, which one would you choose?

The only caveat is that you have to choose something that actually looks modern! No classic steel frame designs, etc.

Cheers!

-Gregory
My new stainless Barco XCr is a lot newer than carbon fiber, but it has a carbon fiber seat post, stem, handlebars, steering tube and saddle rails. It also has direct mount Campy brakes which are very new. Carbon fiber frames have been around since Greg LeMond won the Tour de France on a Look carbon frame bike in 1986. Columbus first started making stainless XCr tubes in 2007. Although this is steel, the tube dimensions are much larger and thinner than classic steel frames so the look is completely different, and newer, than most carbon frame shapes. The carbon parts are WR Compositi an Italian company that also makes wheels, bike frames and parts for Ferrari and Lamborghini. The group set is Campagnolo Super Record 12 speed which is very new. The pedals are Look Keo Blade with titanium shafts and ceramic bearings, also very new.




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Old 03-30-20, 08:49 PM
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that fork. What is happening with that fork? There are so many modern carbon road forks that would look fantastic with this frameset.
that fork is massive up at the crown. Did they brake the first 6 forks and have to use this one last minute?
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Old 03-30-20, 10:38 PM
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Id get all the stuff Ive never had: anodized titanium gravel disk brakes carbon rims and wireless electronic shifting
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Old 03-30-20, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Chr0m0ly View Post
If money were no object...



https://www.flickr.com/photos/ahearn...7637350361296/


This is a polished stainless fillet brazed touring bike built over the course of a bit under 500 labor hours.
How much does it weigh? It looks like 50 lbs.
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Old 03-31-20, 03:02 AM
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Great bikes in this thread, wow. I really like the looks of this Dutch one, from Wind Cycleworks:
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Old 03-31-20, 04:15 AM
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A Dekerf would be nice.
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Old 03-31-20, 06:16 AM
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Colnogo C 64 with rim brakes ..I do not care for disk brakes. But since I will not own a modern bike sorry the overall quality just does not appeal to me ..show me one that in 40 or more years will be ride able and then you can peak my interest ....Carbon fiber will degrade long before this happens. Titanium the cost for a bread loaf bike no rolling resistance is not exercise it is 1 uping the Jones. I love and cherish my Vintage rides because like me they have weathered time and life and still going strong.
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Old 03-31-20, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AJI125 View Post
Didn't read through all the responses, but I've got an irrational love of the Niner RLT-9 Steel. If I were willing to invest that kind of money in a bike, and the newness mattered to me, it'd be in the stable with a nice GRX group and probably some G-one speeds or RH on there...

https://ninerbikes.com/products/rlt-9-steel

Me too! And we've got a similar love for LeMonds! The All City's look nice too. I can be convinced to go AL again too but if $$ is no object... I'd also love a GRX grouppo.
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Old 03-31-20, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CMAW View Post
Great bikes in this thread, wow. I really like the looks of this Dutch one, from Wind Cycleworks:
You're right, they definitely make some nice stuff.
That's a fork by Lauf though. I posted them earlier on in this thread.
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Old 03-31-20, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel View Post
Oddly, a stackable "full cable integrated" stem and bars have an uncanny resemblance to...quill stems. Except they are a bit inelegant at best, and downright ungainly at worst, especially on a small frame.
I was wondering why I can't decide whether I like them or not! Almost uncanny valley territory sometimes.
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I was wondering why I can't decide whether I like them or not! Almost uncanny valley territory sometimes.
Yeah, and then you get into this valley and you go, I don't want to be here. Leave the Technomic stem for touring bikes and get a larger sized frame. As the kids would say: "BRUH."

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Old 03-31-20, 11:20 PM
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To cleanse the palate: Cervelo R5 in 61cm guise. On my personal list of bikes/frames I'd like to snag for a great deal.



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Old 04-17-20, 10:10 AM
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Modern enough?

My new custom Cicli Barco XCR custom with brushed stainless steel, a Barco Viva stainless fork with a carbon steering tube, Campy Super Record 12 sp. and WR Compositi carbon parts. HED Belgium wheels and White Industries T11 hubs and Vittoria Corsa Control tires. If you look closely you will note the Campy direct mount brakes, lighter and far more beautiful than discs, but better working than regular rim brakes.

Gianluca Barco (info@ciclibarco.it)is quite fluent in English and very responsive and helpful in the design, fitting, options and production. They have a huge number of choices and options in both TIG and lugged stainless steel with stainless forks and lugs of all types. He works carefully with you on measurements. He also got me a good price on many of the carbon and Campy parts.


My custom frame cost 3,320 Euros ( $3,600) including shipping. But, it has a lot of options like name plate, Italian shield, nickel head badge, direct mount brakes, multi-color paint, the Viva fork, the carbon steering tube and Chris King headset. The base price for a XCr TIG welded frame with a curved stainless fork is 2,620 Euros ($2,900) including brushed or polished finish, one paint color, interior or exterior brake cables, and a number of other no-cost options. A stainless steel XCr lugged frame is 100 Euros more.

The bike weighs 18 lbs. 14 oz. with pedals for a size 58.5 frame. It rides very smoothly and feels alive. Also the production quality and paint is flawless. Cicli Barco won the "Best of Italy" and other awards last year at Bespoked, the British version of NAHBS. https://bespoked.cc/awards.html.

For an independent review of the Barco XCr frame look at this: https://www.cyclist.co.uk/reviews/66...rco-xcr-review

And, most importantly, Barco makes handmade steel frames for about 20 other Italian bike companies to put their own name on. The odds are extremely high that any brand name Italian steel frame is probably made by Barco, although not to the quality control levels of bikes with their own name on it. Of course, there is a huge mark up by the other bike company. The Cinelli XCr stainless frame is made by Barco but has none of the options and quality finish that mine has but it costs $4,800.

Just so you know, XCr refers to Columbus XCr stainless steel tubing. It is a relatively new product, only about 10 years old, that features very high-tech metallurgy and is triple butted. The tubes are almost paper thin but quite strong. It also happens to be the most expensive tube set in the world, currently over $800 just for the raw tubes.

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Old 04-17-20, 06:44 PM
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Johnk3 I love it, thanks for sharing! The Cinelli XCr was posted earlier as the choice frame by iab I think?

And here am I feeling warm and fuzzy about the possibility of indulging on a custom Bob Jackson with a full Reynolds 631 frame made after the storm blows over and their shop re-opens... Ha!

-Gregory
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Originally Posted by Kilroy1988 View Post
The Cinelli XCr was posted earlier as the choice frame by iab I think?
My understanding of this thread is what modern bike would you buy, not what modern bike I already own. I'm still thinking a 1x11 Cinelli Nemo that has clearance for at least 32mm tires for the roads around our cabin. And has those fancy disc brakes.

But I do indeed own an XCR. #2 . Weighs in at 7.0kg/15.24 pounds. But it can clear only 27mm tires. Fine for the roads around the greater Chicagoland area.
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Old 04-17-20, 09:17 PM
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...But I do indeed own an XCR. #2 . Weighs in at 7.0kg/15.24 pounds. But it can clear only 27mm tires. Fine for the roads around the greater Chicagoland area.
Oh! Right, you posted a different one earlier. I was in fact thinking of the XCr that you already own when you came to mind! Very cool...

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Old 04-18-20, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by boomerbicyclist View Post
I'd say Renovo, but they went under two years ago. Shame, too, because they were awesome.
The new owner is still doing bike frames: Renovo Hardwood Bikes and Bike Frames
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Having a lot of fun with this Retrotec






Chapman Cycles up next, modern bikes are addictive too.
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Old 04-18-20, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Vonruden View Post
...Chapman Cycles up next, modern bikes are addictive too.
Chapman's frames are among my favorite modern work. Brian has a very classic flair to his designs. However, if I were to go for a randonneur Meerglas, Royal H, and MAP would also all be top choices! All well out of my price range for the time being... Saving up to buy a house within the next couple of years!

What style of bike are you getting built?

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Canyon or Fezzari

I toyed with the idea of getting a Canyon Endurance or Fezzari Fore earlier this year. Ultimately I just bought another steel Trek frame to build up and ride.



Canyon

Fezzari
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Beautiful. I need to put that on my short list!
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That is a good deal on the frame. Definitely need to keep this in mind for future projects.

[QUOTE=Johnk3;21423374]My new custom Cicli Barco XCR custom with brushed stainless steel, a Barco Viva stainless fork with a carbon steering tube, Campy Super Record 12 sp. and WR Compositi carbon parts. HED Belgium wheels and White Industries T11 hubs and Vittoria Corsa Control tires. If you look closely you will note the Campy direct mount brakes, lighter and far more beautiful than discs, but better working than regular rim brakes.

Gianluca Barco (info@ciclibarco.it)is quite fluent in English and very responsive and helpful in the design, fitting, options and production. They have a huge number of choices and options in both TIG and lugged stainless steel with stainless forks and lugs of all types. He works carefully with you on measurements. He also got me a good price on many of the carbon and Campy parts.
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Probably a De Rosa bike.
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One of those folding paratrooper bikes
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