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Old 07-09-20, 08:07 PM
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Goodrich lives 1/2 block away from me. I'd like to have him build me a replica of the Condor shown on the cover of the
1972 edition of Richard's Bike Book.
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Originally Posted by slenten View Post
Goodrich lives 1/2 block away from me. I'd like to have him build me a replica of the Condor shown on the cover of the
1972 edition of Richard's Bike Book.
Welcome to the forum neighbor!

That would be quite a bike, but I'm certain he could pull it off.

FWIW I saw a guy today with a gorgeous Goodrich Sportif.

What a bike.
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Well, I feel lucky to have gotten this Goodrich second hand. Iíd do it pretty similarly with Goodrich if I didnít have this.






If I had another choice, Iíd go with a Chapman Touring bike. His builds are incredible; he goes ALL in!
Joe L.'s champagne touring bike - Chapman Cycles


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Originally Posted by jeirvine View Post
I think this one, (but my size).


A man after my own heart. I was just about to say "a J.P. Weigle in the french constructer spirit", and there it is. However, I think I'd want chrome or stainless lugs, a bit of pinstriping, and a two-tone paint job. The components would all have to be shiny silver of course.

That Chapman looks awfully nice as well.

Actually, what really floats my boat is this picture:


JP Weigle French Fender Day

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Well, I feel lucky to have gotten this Goodrich second hand. Iíd do it pretty similarly with Goodrich if I didnít have this.





That was an incredible find.

Lovin' the all-road version.
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Originally Posted by gomango View Post
Welcome to the forum neighbor!

That would be quite a bike, but I'm certain he could pull it off.

FWIW I saw a guy today with a gorgeous Goodrich Sportif.

What a bike.
Thanks, gomango! I've been lurking way too long. Yes, those Sportifs are lovely bikes. I suspect he would turn me down because I'd like a polished, stainless rear triangle, lugs and dropouts. Perhaps, a little further afield, Wyganowski would do it. I've admired Kvale's work since the late '70s, his lugwork reminds me of Eisentraut's frames.
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Here's my ideal bike. A mix of old and modern.

For my builder, I'm going local and will pick British Columbia's Chris Dekerf. I would commission him to build me a fillet brazed frameset (perhaps utilizing Dekerf's signature rear seat stays) along with a custom stem that leans towards the endurance side of things - all-day comfort that can handle 28mm tires (future-proofing) but snappy enough to handle long climbs. For tubing, I'd go with Ultima 019 Gold from Kaisei (nee Ishiwata - sort of). As for colour, I'll keep it B.C. themed with red, white, blue and a splash of yellow. Chromed drivetrain-only stay along with dropouts.

As my ode to C&V, I'd have 128mm rear spacing (can handle both 126mm and 130mm hubs) and 1" headtube diameter for a quill stem. A Chris King headset and bottom bracket will be installed.

For wheels, I'll go with a pair of late 1980s or early 1990s Campagnolo Record hubs with quick-release skewers laced to Mavic GL330 rims using double-butted DT Swiss spokes. Tires will be Challenge Stradas. Bars will be Cinelli wrapped with some nice gel-infused tape, saddle with be a titanium-railed Selle Italia Flite perched atop a C-Record aero seat post, from the same era as the hubs.

The drivetrain will consist of a modern Sugino OX2-901D crankset with 48-32 chainrings (think long hills), Speedplay pedals, a seven-speed C-Record derailleur set with Doppler retro-friction levers, a top-line KMC chain, and a 13-26 freewheel. Braking will be handled by a pair of modern 9000 series Dura-Ace calipers (stopping is important!) and matched to early-1990's Dura-Ace 7402 levers. Cables and housing will be Jagwire's elite series with aluminum link housing.

Now to win the lottery. Dekerf frames don't come cheap!



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I picked mine yesterday.
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Jason, what a lovely surprise to start the day.

I knew you were working on this, but I didn't know the details.

How was the process?

Kind of reminds me of a "super premium" Quickbeam.

So many little details that look just right.
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Originally Posted by slenten View Post
I've admired Kvale's work since the late '70s, his lugwork reminds me of Eisentraut's frames.
Yes and also Dinucci for sure.

I'm still holding a Kvale frameset that has been around for ages.

I've owned some very nice Kvales, but the one I have is in tough shape atm.

I was going to contact Chris and see if he might do a refinish.

I have been finding new homes for most of my collection, but a Kvale could find a permanent spot here.

It is an older Kvale frameset that could accept a wider tire. Maybe even a 700x32.

As you know, the road surfaces in the Twin Cities can be a real pain for the rider.
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Originally Posted by NatusEstInSuht View Post
Here's my ideal bike. A mix of old and modern.

For my builder, I'm going local and will pick British Columbia's Chris Dekerf. I would commission him to build me a fillet brazed frameset (perhaps utilizing Dekerf's signature rear seat stays) along with a custom stem that leans towards the endurance side of things - all-day comfort that can handle 28mm tires (future-proofing) but snappy enough to handle long climbs. For tubing, I'd go with Ultima 019 Gold from Kaisei (nee Ishiwata - sort of). As for colour, I'll keep it B.C. themed with red, white, blue and a splash of yellow. Chromed drivetrain-only stay along with dropouts.

As my ode to C&V, I'd have 128mm rear spacing (can handle both 126mm and 130mm hubs) and 1" headtube diameter for a quill stem. A Chris King headset and bottom bracket will be installed.

For wheels, I'll go with a pair of late 1980s or early 1990s Campagnolo Record hubs with quick-release skewers laced to Mavic GL330 rims using double-butted DT Swiss spokes. Tires will be Challenge Stradas. Bars will be Cinelli wrapped with some nice gel-infused tape, saddle with be a titanium-railed Selle Italia Flite perched atop a C-Record aero seat post, from the same era as the hubs.

The drivetrain will consist of a modern Sugino OX2-901D crankset with 48-32 chainrings (think long hills), Speedplay pedals, a seven-speed C-Record derailleur set with Doppler retro-friction levers, a top-line KMC chain, and a 13-26 freewheel. Braking will be handled by a pair of modern 9000 series Dura-Ace calipers (stopping is important!) and matched to early-1990's Dura-Ace 7402 levers. Cables and housing will be Jagwire's elite series with aluminum link housing.

Now to win the lottery. Dekerf frames don't come cheap!



Chris Dekerf frameset

Chris Dekerf Frame
I have a 1998 Dekerf Prodigy in Reynolds 853. I particularly like his seat stay treatment and his workmanship is second to none.

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Originally Posted by Classtime View Post
Yep. Learn from us. Don't let any one talk you into threadless unless you go uber oversized on the frame tubes.

Tubular vs. clincher is not a thing on your dream bike because you will have a set of each built special for this bike. So forget the 23mm clincher rims because you want to avoid having to adjust the brakes when you swap.
that was in my mind also.....as it so happens i have that set up for my current 2 bikes
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Builder, myself, not because I am great, but I am cheap.

Frame, "super light" .7/.4/.7 butted main tubes, in this case True Temper OX Platinum. Quick handling, traditional geometry, not low trail. 650b. Powder coat because it's good enough. 5.1 lb frame and fork.

Build, classic modern components, weight weenie with some hidden Ti bits. 17.9 lb without pedals.









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Builder, myself, not because I am great, but I am cheap.

Frame, "super light" .7/.4/.7 butted main tubes, in this case True Temper OX Platinum. Quick handling, traditional geometry, not low trail. 650b. Powder coat because it's good enough. 5.1 lb frame and fork.

Build, classic modern components, weight weenie with some hidden Ti bits. 17.9 lb without pedals.









-Devin
looks totally professional ver nice
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I'm happy with this one.
Various flavors of Campy (2x10), Chris King Gripnut headset, Nitto bars and stem. TB-14s on Record hubs.
Frame is Dedaccia Com 12.5 tubes with Hank James stainless lugs. It's 12 years old and still feels fresh.

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Originally Posted by gomango View Post
Jason, what a lovely surprise to start the day.

I knew you were working on this, but I didn't know the details.

How was the process?

Kind of reminds me of a "super premium" Quickbeam.

So many little details that look just right.
Brian was so awesome, lotís of communication, sought out input all along the way. I may just get on line for another
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I'm happy with this one.
Various flavors of Campy (2x10), Chris King Gripnut headset, Nitto bars and stem. TB-14s on Record hubs.
Frame is Dedaccia Com 12.5 tubes with Hank James stainless lugs. It's 12 years old and still feels fresh.

and builder is Cassave correct ?
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and builder is Cassave correct ?
Correct.
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Went down this road quite recently but there’s nothing really C or V about it:



The ride is sublime.
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Went down this road quite recently but thereís nothing really C or V about it:



The ride is sublime.
Steel, right?

Tanwalls

Motor

Close enough
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Steel, right?

Tanwalls

Motor

Close enough
Nope, Ti.
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Nope, Ti.
Still close enough, Ti goes way back too, giving you a pass, we know your hearts in the right place.
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Powder coat because it's good enough.

-Devin
Sir, what, pray tell, is that powder coat color/name/code? Metallic light blue is something I am searching for and have yet to find it in the Prismatic Powder's listings. Maybe because I am searching for too glossy an application!

And of course, where are my manners. Gorgeous frameset work!
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Went down this road quite recently but thereís nothing really C or V about it:



The ride is sublime.
Very nice Neal!
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Sir, what, pray tell, is that powder coat color/name/code? Metallic light blue is something I am searching for and have yet to find it in the Prismatic Powder's listings. Maybe because I am searching for too glossy an application!

And of course, where are my manners. Gorgeous frameset work!
Mercedes Blue PMB-4575, picked it because I've seen it on a few frames before
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