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Old 02-16-21, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
One last time. Vaccine priority is not based on importance to society. It's based on (1) vulnerability to deadly COVID (old, sick people), and (2) likelihood one might spread it to (1).

If ls01 is working on electric lines inside nursing homes, he would be one of the first to be vaccinated. But if he works on lines out in empty fields, not so much.
I deleted the response I had posted along with a bunch of additional stuff.
You don't get it.
I had high hopes for you but I think you may looking at this through a colored lenz.
Try this one on for size. Janitors are essential workers and are getting the vaccine.
Its not that we are essential to V.V. Its that certain people do essential work for the community at large.

I just keep getting drawn in....
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Some friends are down for the winter, from Colorado. They are anti-maskers, anti-vaxers, and hoaxers. They are also moon landing deniers.
They must be a lot of fun at parties.
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Originally Posted by ls01 View Post
I deleted the response I had posted along with a bunch of additional stuff.
You don't get it.
I had high hopes for you but I think you may looking at this through a colored lenz.
Try this one on for size. Janitors are essential workers and are getting the vaccine.
Its not that we are essential to V.V. Its that certain people do essential work for the community at large.

I just keep getting drawn in....

Yeah.

You're not new here, either.
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That's just another bogeyman you socio-economically less-advantaged angry old white dudes like to harp on about, as you lament the fact that you are no longer kings with your HS diplomas and stay-at-home wives.
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I swapped out the battery, shoveled the driveway, then did the coldest ever oil change on the truck. Managed to anger my back problem.
Then I had to put the mail box bach on the pole.. snow plow got me again
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Old 02-16-21, 08:35 PM
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Yeah.

You're not new here, either.
well, essentially....
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When I first heard about Flat Earthers, I was sure it was meant ironically. NOBODY, I thought, could be THAT dumb. When I read that it's a real thing, I was gobsmacked. Apparently my opinion of humanity is unjustifiably positive. Or was, anyway.
They're just waiting for someone to offer to fly them around the world to prove them wrong. They ain't slick.
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large variances in daily temperatures and conditions are normal here. It's called living in a maritime climate, on a group of islands. no big deal.
wut
Temperature swings by the ocean are less than those inland. Land heats/cools faster than water.
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Try this one on for size. Janitors are essential workers and are getting the vaccine.
Its not that we are essential to V.V. Its that certain people do essential work for the community at large.
It's not about essential workers now. The first people to get vaccined were residents of nursing homes. No offense, but how are they essential to the community?
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Originally Posted by ls01 View Post
I deleted the response I had posted along with a bunch of additional stuff.
You don't get it. . . .
I just keep getting drawn in....
IKR. I almost started to rebut, but alarms went off and lights started flashing, and common sense took over and I moved on. #SurvivalInstincts
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
wut
Temperature swings by the ocean are less than those inland. Land heats/cools faster than water.

It's not about essential workers now. The first people to get vaccined were residents of nursing homes. No offense, but how are they essential to the community?
Almost got me again, didn't ya!
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Practice makes perfect.
Where I lived there were 3 different entities to plow the roads. Caltrans, the state, plowed the freeway, the I5. The main road from the freeway was plowed by the county and the roads in my community were plowed by the community. I could call the plow operator directly in the morning and he would come to my street. The county was hit and miss and if it started snowing late they wouldn't usually come out until the morning. Lots of people got stuck. Sometimes I would pick them up on my way home.
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Originally Posted by ls01 View Post
I swapped out the battery, shoveled the driveway, then did the coldest ever oil change on the truck. Managed to anger my back problem.
Then I had to put the mail box bach on the pole.. snow plow got me again

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
One last time. Vaccine priority is not based on importance to society. It's based on (1) vulnerability to deadly COVID (old, sick people), and (2) likelihood one might spread it to (1).

If ls01 is working on electric lines inside nursing homes, he would be one of the first to be vaccinated. But if he works on lines out in empty fields, not so much.
Lucky for the rest of us, public health services are able to think in more than a single track. They also prioritize people you don't want falling sick and leaving the rest of us vulnerable to things like power outages in the middle of a heretofore unprecedented winter storm, or people who harvest, slaughter, cut up, pack, distribute, and sell our food.
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Lucky for the rest of us, public health services are able to think in more than a single track. They also prioritize people you don't want falling sick and leaving the rest of us vulnerable to things like power outages in the middle of a heretofore unprecedented winter storm, or people who harvest, slaughter, cut up, pack, distribute, and sell our food.
Like the plan which I cited above?

https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/he...ation_Plan.pdf
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
wut
Temperature swings by the ocean are less than those inland. Land heats/cools faster than water.
He's correct. It's the interaction of the land temps and the ocean temps. It's the same thing that causes microclimates in the Bay Area that make some places in the 50s while a dozen miles away it's in the 90s. And then it changes.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
Okay, MOST public health services are able to think in more than one track. You appear to have found the exception.
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He's correct. It's the interaction of the land temps and the ocean temps. It's the same thing that causes microclimates in the Bay Area that make some places in the 50s while a dozen miles away it's in the 90s. And then it changes.
That and we are a collection of moderately sized islands in the middle of large oceans. Our nearest major landmass is thousands of miles away.
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What's the occasion? Moving back?
If I get this job we'll move to Wenatchee, otherwise I'll end up in some other town in WA or OR most likely.
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If I get this job we'll move to Wenatchee, otherwise I'll end up in some other town in WA or OR most likely.
What kind of job, if you don't mind me asking?
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Not a Honda tech but GM cars do "wake up" several modules when the door is opened but this is not a problem as they will all go to sleep before the battery runs down.
You can use the acc position for a while but it may draw more current than older non computerized cars. Just don't overdo it.
GM cars also have accessory power which remains on for 15 minutes after you turn off the key, provided you don't open the door.
my least favorite thing about our 01 and 03 GMs is that as soon as you open the door upon stopping somewhere, the radio turns off. I miss my olde cars wherein I could pull up somewhere, open the doors, turn up the tunes and have a party!
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What kind of job, if you don't mind me asking?
CAD work for a utility company.
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While looking for bits for the Cannondale restoration, I spent a bit of time idly checking on other Cannondales of the same era on Ebay. One that I clicked on the listing was an R600 from about the same year. It used the 2.8 frame, which is a bit lighter and more highly tweaked than the 3.0. This year of R600 had RX100 kit like my R500, but with STIs instead of downtube shifters, and a double instead of a triple, and 8 speeds instead of 7. Looks to be in okay shape, all original components, seems not to have been ridden a lot. Back when I bought MY Cannondale, I fantasized about the 2.8 frame, but I couldn't afford more than just the R500 and its 3.0 frame. Seller wants $620 Buy It Now. I saved it in my watch list, just idly toying with the idea, as one does.

Then Sunday, I get an offer from the seller - $80 off. I need another bike like I need a hole in the head I'm already afraid my wife will figure out how much I've spend on bits for MY Cannondale. So, I declined.

Today, he lowered the offer down to $515. This is basically what I paid for the R500 when it was new, 25 years ago. Part of me wants it, the part that fantasized about a 2.8 bike 25 years ago.

We watch collectors joke about hoping our wives never realize just how many we have. But, you know, you can put 100 watches in a dresser drawer (ask me how I know!), whereas a bike is a hell of a lot bigger!
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Some friends are down for the winter, from Colorado. They are anti-maskers, anti-vaxers, and hoaxers. They are also moon landing deniers.
You're friends with Lauren Boebert? Kudos!
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While looking for bits for the Cannondale restoration, I spent a bit of time idly checking on other Cannondales of the same era on Ebay. One that I clicked on the listing was an R600 from about the same year. It used the 2.8 frame, which is a bit lighter and more highly tweaked than the 3.0. This year of R600 had RX100 kit like my R500, but with STIs instead of downtube shifters, and a double instead of a triple, and 8 speeds instead of 7. Looks to be in okay shape, all original components, seems not to have been ridden a lot. Back when I bought MY Cannondale, I fantasized about the 2.8 frame, but I couldn't afford more than just the R500 and its 3.0 frame. Seller wants $620 Buy It Now. I saved it in my watch list, just idly toying with the idea, as one does.

Then Sunday, I get an offer from the seller - $80 off. I need another bike like I need a hole in the head I'm already afraid my wife will figure out how much I've spend on bits for MY Cannondale. So, I declined.

Today, he lowered the offer down to $515. This is basically what I paid for the R500 when it was new, 25 years ago. Part of me wants it, the part that fantasized about a 2.8 bike 25 years ago.

We watch collectors joke about hoping our wives never realize just how many we have. But, you know, you can put 100 watches in a dresser drawer (ask me how I know!), whereas a bike is a hell of a lot bigger!
It's still tough to tell the difference between a pile of 10 bikes and a pile of 12 bikes
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A lot of wrongness on Tuesday. Maybe Wednesday will be better.
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Temperature swings by the ocean are less than those inland. Land heats/cools faster than water.
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