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Modern Steel Road Bike Appreciation Thread

Old 01-20-16, 07:38 AM
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Polished/chrome wheels and spokes? Please tell me what brand they are. I have a idea for a nuveau/retro build and I'm thinking about chrome rims.
Velo Orange and H Plus Son both offer Polished silver hoops, and Kinlin offers most hoops in annodized silver.
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Originally Posted by PeregrineA1 View Post
Though a 2007 Lemond Poprad and 2013 Ritchey Breakaway Ti Cross wait in the wings.
Post them! I've been searching for a Poprad for so long now..
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Old 01-20-16, 08:07 AM
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Still love my 2012 Quest. Older pic many things have been changed out.
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Originally Posted by kbarch View Post
It may be the angle, but those don't look like modern-style compact/ergo bars. Nice job nonetheless!
Good eye. They are sort of in between. The angle does exacerbate the appearance too as you noted.
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Originally Posted by Wileyone View Post
That Bianchi at $3499.00... You could buy a few really nice C&V Bikes for that. But at least it has a Quill Stem. Steel Bikes just look wrong without one.
Having to take the bar tape and levers off to swap out the stem when dialing in fit is a pain. The alternative is to ride around without bar tape while trying out different stem lengths.

That's why I went with threadless. A few bolts and a stem swap is done.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post

I've said it before, but that's a good looking bike!

Chainrings are a wee bit busy, and I dislike the seat post, but it's still cool and one-of-a-kind.
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Originally Posted by Steamer View Post
I appreciate my new (6 months old) Moulton TSR very much. It is, in fact, a steel bike, and while not the most modern design Moulton offers, it's still updated in a number of respects from its APB forefather. Clearly though, it has a pretty different ride from regular (essentially traditional) steel road bike (which I also enjoy, but two of those that I have are are vintage machines, not new).

Very cool! Moulton's make me wish I wasn't 6' of leg and 220lbs!
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My steel small-wheeler is a '12 Mercier Nano, a fun little bike for shooting around town on, and maybe if I weren't all in on the b&w animal print thing, I might swap out that a**-hatchet of a saddle for something actually rideable, and venture a little longer and further on it, because despite the extreme looks, it's not really uncomfortable.

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Originally Posted by shoota View Post
Post them! I've been searching for a Poprad for so long now..
Still gathering parts. Poprad may have all the pieces in the next few weeks. Breakaway is farther out still. I broke the bike fund with the virtually simultaneous purchase of the two of them, got to do some selling...
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
I've said it before, but that's a good looking bike!

Chainrings are a wee bit busy, and I dislike the seat post, but it's still cool and one-of-a-kind.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Having to take the bar tape and levers off to swap out the stem when dialing in fit is a pain. The alternative is to ride around without bar tape while trying out different stem lengths.

That's why I went with threadless. A few bolts and a stem swap is done.
But... You still have to live with ugly.
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Originally Posted by Wileyone View Post
But... You still have to live with ugly.
You're not only in the wrong thread, you probably should be in C&V.
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Old 01-20-16, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
You're not only in the wrong thread, you probably should be in C&V.
Agreed. The "Modern" Steel Road bike thread is not the place to argue against the following:

Threadless forks
Carbon forks
Non-lugged frames

i.e. don't argue against modernity.
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I'm not arguing against carbon forks. I do wonder however, why there aren't more steel forks available for modern steel bikes.

My steel fork is "modern" in that it is threadless but is pretty high-end lugged Tange Infinity CroMo. It's not an old or vintage fork but manufactured in 2015. I thought it would be heavy and harsh but everything I heard about the "Buttery feel" of steel frames translated to the fork as well. Riding the bike is like riding on a cloud.

Not really sure I have a point here other than expressing my own experience with a steel fork and wondering out loud why riders don't consider steel forks for steel bikes more often. I get that you can't have on your bike what what manufacturers don't offer. If I was to build a modern steel bike however, I would not hesitate to put a good quality steel fork on it.

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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
^ Men do Not "impulse buy." We make very swift acquisition decisions which our gender had learned to do over eons of evolution as hunters in dangerous situations.

Buying that bike would have been an utterly rational survival based decision made swiftly because wasting time would have been anti-survival.
That was going to be my argument as well

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This is my main road bike. It's a custom Waterford with S&S couplers.
I just got the Gunnar a few days before Thanksgiving in '15.
Nice!

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This thread is on the fast road to Suxville.
Would anyone care to take a stab at distinguishing the modifier "modern," as in modern steel bike, from "new" and "recent"?
It's a critical element (to an interesting conversation, anyway) that's blowin' right o'er some heads.
Where does C&V cutoff? I guess we can start there.

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I just ordered one of the new De Rosa Nuovo Classicos. That blue chrome I could not resist:
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I'm really enjoying my 2015 Jamis Quest Comp
I've got a soft sport for steel Jamis bikes. I have one and my buddy has one he really likes as well. Very cool.
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Old 01-20-16, 11:24 AM
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I'm not arguing against carbon forks. I do wonder however, why there aren't more steel forks available for modern steel bikes.

My steel fork is "modern" in that it is threadless but is pretty high-end lugged Tange Infinity CroMo. It's not an old or vintage fork but manufactured in 2015. I thought it would be heavy and harsh but everything I heard about the "Buttery feel" of steel frames translated to the fork as well. Riding he bike is like riding on a cloud.

Not really sure I have a point here other than expressing my own experience with a steel fork and wondering out loud why riders don't consider steel forks for steel bikes more often. I get that you can't have on your bike what what manufacturers don't offer. If I was to build a modern steel bike however, I would not hesitate to put a good quality steel fork on it.
The weight penalty is between 0.5 to 1.25 lb. Steel forks provide a nice ride, but so do carbon.

Your exaggeration ("riding on a cloud") actually discredits what you are saying. It just comes off as BS to anyone who has a wide range of experience with frames made of different materials.
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Originally Posted by Wileyone View Post
But... You still have to live with ugly.
I used to believe that, but after looking at a few 'classic' looking ones, which are high polished aluminum, a single, smaller bolt to attach to the fork, and and under clamp for the handlebars just like on a threadless stem, I've learned to accept, hell I'll say it, even like some of them. They look good on the bikes I see them on, I think they fit well with the classic steel aesthetics.
That's all I'll say on the subject though, as I don't want this to thread to derail as I like looking at modern steel offerings!
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
How about "modernized"? Does that count?



Only traditional aspects are the horizontal top tube, tube diameters, and 531 tubing. Everything else has been brought up to date. About 17 lb as shown.
While it's a sweet bike, we do have a 209 page thread dedicated to this type of thing

http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ergos-209.html
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
Your exaggeration ("riding on a cloud") actually discredits what you are saying. It just comes off as BS to anyone who has a wide range of experience with frames made of different materials.
Well, he didn't specify whether it might have been a supercell during a massive thunderstorm ... But yeas, this hearkens back to the (absolutely accurate, I am sure) description on the steel sprint track bike with steel wheels eating up the trails better than a mountain bike.
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@RobbieTunes That is one cool looking bike. I *almost* bought a Wraith... but that's another story for another thread.
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That's what I'm talkin' about! Fully modern, fully Dope.
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I've tried carbon forks on older steel bikes, and found the same as you did, the steel fork seems to be more in tune with the frame's mojo, and the bikes rode better with the OEM steel fork. I suppose those bike designers knew what they were doing, eh? I even tried a carbon fork in place of a Tange Mangalloy fork, the difference was 2 oz and the steel fork smoother.

If I could find a steel fork for a modern bike, I'd love to try one. Columbus Life or Zona tubing come to mind, but I'm not sure how they'd form it in a modern application, with a steel threadless steerer.... I'm sure there's a way, but from a manufacturing standpoint, it's a lot easier to do with carbon, I'm sure.

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I'm not arguing against carbon forks. I do wonder however, why there aren't more steel forks available for modern steel bikes.

My steel fork is "modern" in that it is threadless but is pretty high-end lugged Tange Infinity CroMo. It's not an old or vintage fork but manufactured in 2015. I thought it would be heavy and harsh but everything I heard about the "Buttery feel" of steel frames translated to the fork as well. Riding the bike is like riding on a cloud.

Not really sure I have a point here other than expressing my own experience with a steel fork and wondering out loud why riders don't consider steel forks for steel bikes more often. I get that you can't have on your bike what what manufacturers don't offer. If I was to build a modern steel bike however, I would not hesitate to put a good quality steel fork on it.
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I've tried carbon forks on older steel bikes, and found the same as you did, the steel fork seems to be more in tune with the frame's mojo, and the bikes rode better with the OEM steel fork. I suppose those bike designers knew what they were doing, eh? I even tried a carbon fork in place of a Tange Mangalloy fork, the difference was 2 oz and the steel fork smoother.

If I could find a steel fork for a modern bike, I'd love to try one. Columbus Life or Zona tubing come to mind, but I'm not sure how they'd form it in a modern application, with a steel threadless steerer.... I'm sure there's a way, but from a manufacturing standpoint, it's a lot easier to do with carbon, I'm sure.
I know you're looking for a columbus tubing fork but you can get tange prestige chrome forks. I've been thinking about picking one up for my orbea (which is zona tubing).
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Your exaggeration ("riding on a cloud") actually discredits what you are saying. It just comes off as BS to anyone who has a wide range of experience with frames made of different materials.
Not to me. I understand what he's saying. There is a silkiness to the ride that doesn't always come through in a different genre. It's not universal, nor is the opposite with other materials. Synergy is real, I think, in a bike build. I've built some stinkers that should not have been, and some came out better than they had any right to be. I've had bikes that rode like a cloud, but handled like tractors, and bikes that were nimble and agile, but let your attention wander, and you're quickly in kimshi.
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