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Old 01-07-20, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
I left.

Let me explain, the term ďit was insaneď is routinely overused in society, but that ER was nothing short of that, totally insane. I had to keep looking around me to make sure I wasnít in a third world country or something. I notified the triage nurse that I was leaving and while discussing she conceded this was an unusually bad day. The PA agreed. The cat-scan technician did also. I wanted to take a picture of the place but that would have been immoral, there were sick people lined up everywhere, standing room only. I couldnít take it anymore, I was suffering too much and the people coming in were sicker than me, crying and moaning and you name it. I would have been there til 10 oíclock.

Iíll take my chances and see a neurologist Thursday or so. Iíll alternate Tylenol and Ibu as needed til then. If Iím lucky it may even go away as it usually does for the rest of the year.
I am glad you escaped.

Feel free to not respond, but what "neruological" concerns did urgent care find that made them push the panic button??
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BTW I closely follow the influenza reports that the CDC and my state health dept put out weekly, and the influenza activity in the Northeast is very high this past week and likely peaking this week or next week. I am not surprised if the ER and urgent care places are inundated with sick people above and beyond their usual background numbers.
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BTW I closely follow the influenza reports that the CDC and my state health dept put out weekly, and the influenza activity in the Northeast is very high this past week and likely peaking this week or next week. I am not surprised if the ER and urgent care places are inundated with sick people above and beyond their usual background numbers.
Do they give any word on if it's the expected strains covered by the vaccine or if it's from left field?
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
I left.

Let me explain, the term ďit was insaneď is routinely overused in society, but that ER was nothing short of that, totally insane. I had to keep looking around me to make sure I wasnít in a third world country or something. I notified the triage nurse that I was leaving and while discussing she conceded this was an unusually bad day. The PA agreed. The cat-scan technician did also. I wanted to take a picture of the place but that would have been immoral, there were sick people lined up everywhere, standing room only. I couldnít take it anymore, I was suffering too much and the people coming in were sicker than me, crying and moaning and you name it. I would have been there til 10 oíclock.

Iíll take my chances and see a neurologist Thursday or so. Iíll alternate Tylenol and Ibu as needed til then. If Iím lucky it may even go away as it usually does for the rest of the year.
I understand your frustration with the ER hope the problem is resolved and you feel better.
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I haven't seen a (GP) MD in years.

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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
I am glad you escaped.

Feel free to not respond, but what "neruological" concerns did urgent care find that made them push the panic button??
She didn’t specify, I think she considered there were too many possibilities for her to pursue. Plus, when you state your pain level is a 9 that probably pushes some buttons. At the ER, both the PA and triage nurse said the fact I stated this was the worst headache I ever had was a red flag for them. Yet as the hours slipped by I had regrets that calling it a headache at all may have pushed me to the back burner.

I had to get out of there, the place was depressing yet the staff kept plowing ahead doing their job. Much props to those folks and their professionalism. I’m going to write a letter of praise.

EDIT: My bad, the UC doctor did have a specific concern of an aneurysm. I forgot that.
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
I left.

Let me explain, the term ďit was insaneď is routinely overused in society, but that ER was nothing short of that, totally insane. I had to keep looking around me to make sure I wasnít in a third world country or something. I notified the triage nurse that I was leaving and while discussing she conceded this was an unusually bad day. The PA agreed. The cat-scan technician did also. I wanted to take a picture of the place but that would have been immoral, there were sick people lined up everywhere, standing room only. I couldnít take it anymore, I was suffering too much and the people coming in were sicker than me, crying and moaning and you name it. I would have been there til 10 oíclock.

Iíll take my chances and see a neurologist Thursday or so. Iíll alternate Tylenol and Ibu as needed til then. If Iím lucky it may even go away as it usually does for the rest of the year.
Billy, I would have done the same thing, but sooner. The only rationale for a non-contrast CT scan of the head is to rule out a brain hemorrhage and your symptoms, plus the fact that you have had the same thing in the past strongly suggested something else.

My unsolicited advice would be to pick the academic center in NYC thatís the least onerous to get to (almost certainly Columbia) and make an appointment at their headache clinic in order to be armed for the next cluster.
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
She didnít specify, I think she considered there were too many possibilities for her to pursue. Plus, when you state your pain level is a 9 that probably pushes some buttons. At the ER, both the PA and triage nurse said the fact I stated this was the worst headache I ever had was a red flag for them. Yet as the hours slipped by I had regrets that calling it a headache at all may have pushed me to the back burner.

I had to get out of there, the place was depressing yet the staff kept plowing ahead doing their job. Much props to those folks and their professionalism. Iím going to write a letter of praise.

EDIT: My bad, the UC doctor did have a specific concern of an aneurysm. I forgot that.
Yeah, thatís what they were thinking. Any half-way affirmative answer to ďis this the worst headache of your life?Ē buys you that CT. These people are forced to think in very crude ways and have an action bias.
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I hope the pain goes away soon, BillyD .

Best healthcare in the world, folks.
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Do they give any word on if it's the expected strains covered by the vaccine or if it's from left field?
They say most cases are strains that are in the vaccine.
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
I left.

Let me explain, the term ďit was insaneď is routinely overused in society, but that ER was nothing short of that, totally insane. I had to keep looking around me to make sure I wasnít in a third world country or something. I notified the triage nurse that I was leaving and while discussing she conceded this was an unusually bad day. The PA agreed. The cat-scan technician did also. I wanted to take a picture of the place but that would have been immoral, there were sick people lined up everywhere, standing room only. I couldnít take it anymore, I was suffering too much and the people coming in were sicker than me, crying and moaning and you name it. I would have been there til 10 oíclock.

Iíll take my chances and see a neurologist Thursday or so. Iíll alternate Tylenol and Ibu as needed til then. If Iím lucky it may even go away as it usually does for the rest of the year.
OMG. I hope you get some decent care soon.
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I hope the pain goes away soon, BillyD .

Best healthcare in the world, folks.
We have 3 Canadians at my new work. I'm gonna have to ask them what they were thinking.

My theory is that they all hate the cold weather, since they all dress PHX style: 70į, time to put on a hoodie
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I have no medical issues to report.
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I hope the pain goes away soon, BillyD .

Best healthcare in the world, folks.
Much as I hate to say it, and his suffering notwithstanding, there was nothing really wrong with the care BillyD received and no emergency medicine system in the world is prepared to deal with headache intelligently.

Edit: I now guess you were referring to the state of the ER and yes, that is a shame and the product of a horribly dysfunctional system.

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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
I left.

Let me explain, the term ďit was insaneď is routinely overused in society, but that ER was nothing short of that, totally insane. I had to keep looking around me to make sure I wasnít in a third world country or something. I notified the triage nurse that I was leaving and while discussing she conceded this was an unusually bad day. The PA agreed. The cat-scan technician did also. I wanted to take a picture of the place but that would have been immoral, there were sick people lined up everywhere, standing room only. I couldnít take it anymore, I was suffering too much and the people coming in were sicker than me, crying and moaning and you name it. I would have been there til 10 oíclock.

Iíll take my chances and see a neurologist Thursday or so. Iíll alternate Tylenol and Ibu as needed til then. If Iím lucky it may even go away as it usually does for the rest of the year.
Good grief.
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Much as I hate to say it, and his suffering notwithstanding, there was nothing really wrong with the care BillyD received and no emergency medicine system in the world is prepared to deal with headache intelligently.
You think he should have stayed for the LP??
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I appreciate all the support, guys.
Don't call me since I dont know sh*t about anything and have a lousy bedside manner. Of course, you can always call if you want to hear about my awesome shovel.
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BTW I closely follow the influenza reports that the CDC and my state health dept put out weekly, and the influenza activity in the Northeast is very high this past week and likely peaking this week or next week. I am not surprised if the ER and urgent care places are inundated with sick people above and beyond their usual background numbers.
Also so many folks were traveling over the holidays and had no access to their usual practitioners. Hence the crowds at emergency rooms, urgent care centers and pharmacy clinics.
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H1N1 but I never have had the flu much to the consternation of @Velo Vol
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