Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

A Suitable Candidate for Powdercoating?

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

A Suitable Candidate for Powdercoating?

Old 03-06-20, 06:58 PM
  #1  
Chicago Al 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Chicago Al's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago, the leafy NW side
Posts: 2,509

Bikes: 1974 Motobecane Grand Record, 1987 Miyata Pro, 1988 Bob Jackson Lady Mixte (wife's), others in the family

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times in 22 Posts
A Suitable Candidate for Treatment...(ie Powdercoating)?

I've never done more than modest touchup on frame scratches, but this Stumpjumper Sport frame is a bit rougher than I've had, esp on the chainstay. (The inside is very clean however.)

I've got a place in mind for PC that has a good rep for doing frames; cost is $100 for a basic RAL color, which is all I'd want. Probably I'll go with an orange that's close to the original, might even get repop decals.

But just for kicks I thought I'd kick it out here: would you PC or touch up and ride?

(If anyone gets the movie reference in the thread title I'll be impressed.)




Last edited by Chicago Al; 03-06-20 at 07:22 PM.
Chicago Al is offline  
Old 03-06-20, 07:47 PM
  #2  
wrk101
Thrifty Bill
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 22,599

Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more

Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 899 Post(s)
Liked 289 Times in 216 Posts
Not that era Sport (1987 +/-). If it had a biplaner fork (earlier model), yes. Assuming this is a keeper.

Instead, I'd apply the $100 to my vintage MTB budget and get a pretty nice one (at least in my area).


In the end, its just $100, and if you like it, go ahead.

Last edited by wrk101; 03-06-20 at 09:18 PM.
wrk101 is offline  
Likes For wrk101:
Old 03-06-20, 09:13 PM
  #3  
Rage
Space Ghost
 
Rage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 454

Bikes: 1989 Club Fuji, 1989 Bridgestone RB-1, 1989 Specialized Stumpjumper, 1997 Gary Fisher Big Sur, 2001 GT i-drive Race, Iro Mark V, a bunch more

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 88 Post(s)
Liked 79 Times in 67 Posts
I have a fondness for early specialized mtb frames and have received/rescued several. Got them down to bare metal, sanded and polished and prepped ‘em for repaint only to find another in better shape. Happened like three times lol. So, now I have a bunch of bare frames ready for repaint AND a couple with the paint in good condition.
So, yeah, that hundred bucks can probably go a long way towards a better condition frame, probably even a complete bike.
But, I’d get that one down to bare metal and ready for me to re-paint...
Rage is offline  
Likes For Rage:
Old 03-06-20, 09:20 PM
  #4  
delbiker1 
Mother Nature's Son
 
delbiker1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sussex County, Delaware
Posts: 1,377

Bikes: Early 90's Ochsner road, 2006 Schwinn SS DBX, 2014 Orbea Avant MD30, 2004 Airborne Zeppelin TI, 2003 Lemond Poprad, 1989? Fuji Ace, 2001 Lemond Tourmalet, 2014? Soma Smoothie

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 376 Post(s)
Liked 265 Times in 169 Posts
I have had two frames powder coated, with one being a single stage "pumpkin orange" , Prismatic Powder Coats, done by a local shop. It came out great. He normally uses sandblasting, but I stripped and sanded the frame/fork before I took it to him. It came out great, $100. I also purchased low cost decals, Lemond, off of Ebay for $15. I did not clear coat over them, ergo, they will probably not stay adhered long term.

delbiker1 is offline  
Likes For delbiker1:
Old 03-06-20, 09:31 PM
  #5  
cb400bill
Model Moderator
 
cb400bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 17,705

Bikes: Fuji SL 2.1, Schwinn Voyageur, Cannondale Synapse, Raleigh C50, Trek 710, Raleigh Granada, Legnano Pista, Viscount Aerospace Pro

Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1780 Post(s)
Liked 878 Times in 579 Posts
I say prep it yourself and have it powder coated. And, keep it orange!
cb400bill is offline  
Likes For cb400bill:
Old 03-06-20, 10:56 PM
  #6  
Korina
Happy banana slug
 
Korina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Arcata, California, U.S., North America, Earth, Saggitarius Arm, Milky Way
Posts: 1,698

Bikes: 1992 Specialized Rockhopper Sport, 2016 Giant Liv Rove Lite, 1995 Trek Singletrack 930, 1994 Trek Multitrack 750

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 620 Post(s)
Liked 271 Times in 193 Posts
Go for it! Who cares about the monetary value of the bike? Unless you intend to flip it, you'll likely put more money into it than it will be objectively worth, but it'll look and ride better than any new bike you could buy for that much. Just remember, pics or it didn't happen.
Korina is offline  
Likes For Korina:
Old 03-06-20, 11:23 PM
  #7  
noobinsf 
Senior Member
 
noobinsf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 1,743

Bikes: CURRENT: '82 Univega Competizione, '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '74 Campania Professional, '83 Mercian KOM Touring, '91 Univega Alpina Comp PAST: '72 Puch Bergmeister, '72ish Peugeot UO-8, '86 Univega Gran Premio, '85 Univega Viva Touring

Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 527 Post(s)
Liked 198 Times in 145 Posts
I had to look up the film reference, but it seems like you might want to drift toward more of a Soviet red.
noobinsf is offline  
Likes For noobinsf:
Old 03-07-20, 08:45 AM
  #8  
Chicago Al 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Chicago Al's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago, the leafy NW side
Posts: 2,509

Bikes: 1974 Motobecane Grand Record, 1987 Miyata Pro, 1988 Bob Jackson Lady Mixte (wife's), others in the family

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times in 22 Posts
Originally Posted by noobinsf View Post
I had to look up the film reference, but it seems like you might want to drift toward more of a Soviet red.
https://www.imdb.com/video/vi6656494...&ref_=tt_ov_vi

It's a strange one, for sure, and though it seems to be forgotten today, it apparently did well at the time. The visual style, with lots of slapstick, jump cuts, changing frame rates, is very much like the Beatles films. In fact director Karel Reisz and 'Hard Days' Night' director Tony Richardson worked together quite a bit.

Somehow I saw it near to its original release, though I would have been just 10-12 years old. It made quite an impression, though a lot of that may have been a young Vanessa Redgrave in her underwear.

Last edited by Chicago Al; 03-07-20 at 10:03 AM.
Chicago Al is offline  
Likes For Chicago Al:
Old 03-07-20, 12:07 PM
  #9  
billytwosheds 
Senior Member
 
billytwosheds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Honolulu, HI
Posts: 772

Bikes: Peugeot, Legnano, Fuji, Zunow, De Rosa, Miyata, Bianchi, Pinarello, Specialized, Bridgestone

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 199 Post(s)
Liked 26 Times in 20 Posts
I just want to point out that there's a beautiful little wave peeling off in the background of your photo, just above the bike. Fun coincidence.

Originally Posted by delbiker1 View Post
I have had two frames powder coated, with one being a single stage "pumpkin orange" , Prismatic Powder Coats, done by a local shop. It came out great. He normally uses sandblasting, but I stripped and sanded the frame/fork before I took it to him. It came out great, $100. I also purchased low cost decals, Lemond, off of Ebay for $15. I did not clear coat over them, ergo, they will probably not stay adhered long term.

billytwosheds is offline  
Old 03-07-20, 12:53 PM
  #10  
delbiker1 
Mother Nature's Son
 
delbiker1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sussex County, Delaware
Posts: 1,377

Bikes: Early 90's Ochsner road, 2006 Schwinn SS DBX, 2014 Orbea Avant MD30, 2004 Airborne Zeppelin TI, 2003 Lemond Poprad, 1989? Fuji Ace, 2001 Lemond Tourmalet, 2014? Soma Smoothie

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 376 Post(s)
Liked 265 Times in 169 Posts
Originally Posted by billytwosheds View Post
I just want to point out that there's a beautiful little wave peeling off in the background of your photo, just above the bike. Fun coincidence.

I timed that exposure to catch that and it actually worked. I am far from being an accomplished photographer. Someone else pointed out a similarity to a male body part in the shadow of the crankset/chainring at 11 0'clock. Not saying that I necessarily agree, or disagree.
delbiker1 is offline  
Old 03-07-20, 01:49 PM
  #11  
due ruote 
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,045
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 631 Post(s)
Liked 137 Times in 93 Posts
Seems worthwhile to me, as long as you have the fork.
If you go ahead with it, post more pics please, and if you donít mind sharing, the name of the PC shop.
due ruote is offline  
Likes For due ruote:
Old 03-07-20, 07:02 PM
  #12  
3speedslow
Senior Member
 
3speedslow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 7,915

Bikes: A few

Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1462 Post(s)
Liked 254 Times in 193 Posts
Have you done all the cleaning and polishing you can to the frame? IMO, first step in coming to a decision.
3speedslow is offline  
Likes For 3speedslow:
Old 03-08-20, 08:32 AM
  #13  
Chicago Al 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Chicago Al's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago, the leafy NW side
Posts: 2,509

Bikes: 1974 Motobecane Grand Record, 1987 Miyata Pro, 1988 Bob Jackson Lady Mixte (wife's), others in the family

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times in 22 Posts
Originally Posted by 3speedslow View Post
Have you done all the cleaning and polishing you can to the frame? IMO, first step in coming to a decision.
No, haven't done that. If I go for PC, they'll media blast it (which I believe means they'll lock it in a room with a bunch of TVs going, which will melt the old paint off).

I've got some arthritis in the CMC joints of my thumbs so I am trying to not do a lot of the tight gripping motions that rubbing with a rag, brush, etc would mean.

I went to look for something in my tool bag last week and found that a bottle of 3M 'Imperial Hand Glaze' which was in there had cracked open. That's a polishing product I learned about when I owned a nice Audi last decade, the last car I cared enough about to polish and wax. IHG is an extremely fine abrasive, much more so than most polishes, with an oil (?) that fills in micro-scratches; it just made the paint glow. I've seen it called a 'moisturizer' for paint. Anyway, I've got half a bottle of it over many of my tools, and cleaning that mess up is my next big 'wrenching' project. :- (

Last edited by Chicago Al; 03-08-20 at 08:37 AM.
Chicago Al is offline  
Likes For Chicago Al:
Old 03-08-20, 09:49 AM
  #14  
2old
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: socal
Posts: 2,042
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 334 Post(s)
Liked 96 Times in 75 Posts
Looks like some brazing which suggests the frame may have been manufactured in Japan, a big plus (to me). I've had old steel frames powder coated for personal use and was satisfied with the outcome.
2old is offline  
Old 03-08-20, 06:14 PM
  #15  
due ruote 
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,045
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 631 Post(s)
Liked 137 Times in 93 Posts
Would this be too small? Nice bike and in what looks to be excellent condition.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/b...084013085.html
due ruote is offline  
Likes For due ruote:
Old 03-08-20, 06:32 PM
  #16  
Mad Honk 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Bloomington, IN
Posts: 863

Bikes: Trek 770, Trek 760, Schwinn Peloton, Patelli Professional, Othon Ochsner

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 361 Post(s)
Liked 237 Times in 183 Posts
Al,
Go ahead and PC it. I have started doing that to all paint damaged frames, and it saves me a bunch of hours and has a good look after the work. Smiles, MH
Mad Honk is offline  
Likes For Mad Honk:
Old 03-08-20, 07:37 PM
  #17  
Hudson308 
Mr. Anachronism
 
Hudson308's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: City of Lakes
Posts: 1,925

Bikes: fillet-brazed Chicago Schwinns, and some other stuff

Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 472 Post(s)
Liked 146 Times in 99 Posts
Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
I say prep it yourself and have it powder coated. And, keep it orange!
Yeah, what he said.
Git 'er done.
__________________
"If we don't change direction soon, we'll end up where we're going." -Irwin Corey
Hudson308 is offline  
Likes For Hudson308:
Old 03-09-20, 08:22 AM
  #18  
wrk101
Thrifty Bill
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 22,599

Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more

Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 899 Post(s)
Liked 289 Times in 216 Posts
The only bike I own that I would consider powder coating someday is my 1988 Cimarron. Its not worth the expense financially. But it continues to be my main go to bike, and it had paint as bad as your Stumpjumper when I got it.

I touched it up at the time, its OK from ten feet away and is working. But cosmetically, touching up that much paint damage will never look good at least at my skill level.
wrk101 is offline  
Likes For wrk101:
Old 03-10-20, 03:44 PM
  #19  
Korina
Happy banana slug
 
Korina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Arcata, California, U.S., North America, Earth, Saggitarius Arm, Milky Way
Posts: 1,698

Bikes: 1992 Specialized Rockhopper Sport, 2016 Giant Liv Rove Lite, 1995 Trek Singletrack 930, 1994 Trek Multitrack 750

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 620 Post(s)
Liked 271 Times in 193 Posts
Originally Posted by due ruote View Post
Would this be too small? Nice bike and in what looks to be excellent condition.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/b...084013085.html
Ooo, yes please. I have a 17" 930 and love it to bits.
Korina is offline  
Likes For Korina:
Old 03-11-20, 01:06 PM
  #20  
Chicago Al 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Chicago Al's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago, the leafy NW side
Posts: 2,509

Bikes: 1974 Motobecane Grand Record, 1987 Miyata Pro, 1988 Bob Jackson Lady Mixte (wife's), others in the family

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times in 22 Posts
Originally Posted by due ruote View Post
Would this be too small? Nice bike and in what looks to be excellent condition.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/b...084013085.html
That looks very cool, and price isn't unreasonable. If I didn't already have the Stumpjumper Sport, as well as a 1986 (I think?) Schwinn Cimarron (thanks to wrk101), I'd probably jump on it. I have limited space, in my garage as well as head, for projects, so I want to get these two 'birds in the hand' fixed up and see how they work out.

Unless a green Cimarron turns up...that would turn my head.

I dropped the Stumpjumper off at the PC shop today. RAL 2011 looks like a very close match to the original paint. I know I could choose any color, but I'll likely stick to the orange, and put velocals repro decals on.
__________________
I never think I have hit hard, unless it rebounds.

- Dr Samuel Johnson
Chicago Al is offline  
Likes For Chicago Al:
Old 03-11-20, 02:09 PM
  #21  
Korina
Happy banana slug
 
Korina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Arcata, California, U.S., North America, Earth, Saggitarius Arm, Milky Way
Posts: 1,698

Bikes: 1992 Specialized Rockhopper Sport, 2016 Giant Liv Rove Lite, 1995 Trek Singletrack 930, 1994 Trek Multitrack 750

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 620 Post(s)
Liked 271 Times in 193 Posts
Chicago Al, I was in Tin Can Mailman (our famous used bookstore) yesterday and spotted a book celebrating the 25th anniversary of the Stumpjumper. I glanced through it; it was pretty cool.
Korina is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.