Drop bars twitchy?
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Drop bars twitchy?
So I've just gone from a flat bar bike to drop bars.
I am very comfortable on the hoods and on the tops, but when I go to the drops, I actually feel like I lose some stability, ie, the steering gets twitchy, squirly, whatever you want to call it...it just feels like I'm less in control and have to work harder to hold a line...
1. Is this normal and just something I'll have to get used to?
2. If not, are there adjustments that could help?
I'm already on an endurance geometry bike with compact bars, so it's not as if I have a huge saddle-bar drop.
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I am very comfortable on the hoods and on the tops, but when I go to the drops, I actually feel like I lose some stability, ie, the steering gets twitchy, squirly, whatever you want to call it...it just feels like I'm less in control and have to work harder to hold a line...
1. Is this normal and just something I'll have to get used to?
2. If not, are there adjustments that could help?
I'm already on an endurance geometry bike with compact bars, so it's not as if I have a huge saddle-bar drop.
Thanks
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I'd hazard a guess that when you're going to the drops, you're extending your arms and perhaps locking your elbows. Going to the drops, focus on keeping your elbows bent to same degree and just as "loose" as they were when you were on the hoods or top.
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I think it's normal, and to do with moving your grip closer to, or even behind, the steering axis, so it does feel different. You may also be pulling your weight in towards the middle of the bike a touch, depending on your setup, and weighting, again, a little further back from the contact patch of the front wheel, so also enhancing the wheel's "bump response," or tendency to move off line.
I don't know the mechanisms exactly, but I do know that, with practice, you can master any bicycle, and the odds are that you don't even have an unusual one, so give it time and practice.
I don't know the mechanisms exactly, but I do know that, with practice, you can master any bicycle, and the odds are that you don't even have an unusual one, so give it time and practice.
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Something must be funky with you're fit or setup. Other than feeling like a contortionist, you should feel as if you have better control in the drops. Your center of gravity is lower & your hand closer to the front axle.
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I think it just takes time before you feel comfortable in the drops. If you are putting a lot of weight on your hands, keep riding and building up core muscles will shift your riding position a bit. Also you'll get used to narrower bars with riding experience. Flat bar bikes have very wide hand position compared to road bikes and it can feel twitchy until you adjust.
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If you are putting a lot of your upper body weight on the bars when in the drops it could seem that way. Building core strength will help.
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I doubt that, given it's an endurance bike with compact bars. Rather, it's important to remember that the drops effectively shorten the stem length compared to being on the hoods, so faster steering response to input is expected.
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For many riders, this ^^^ Core strength and flexibility... Training yourself to be able to ride in a good position in the drops for and extended time period comfortably takes some dedicated work. There also a lot of really poorly fit bikes on the road. One would be hard pressed to find the zone if your bike fit is out to lunch.
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It shouldn't be like that. Drops are the position that give the best control, and descending and tricky turns should always be ridden in the drops.
It does take some getting used to. You should be comfortable riding flat terrain in the drops for a longer time. Once you do that, the handling will feel better too.
It does take some getting used to. You should be comfortable riding flat terrain in the drops for a longer time. Once you do that, the handling will feel better too.
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If you're twitchy, that means you have more control. Not less.
It will take some getting used to, keep relaxed shoulders and elbows.
It will take some getting used to, keep relaxed shoulders and elbows.
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When riding motorcycles, one is often told that the hands should just be laying on the handlebar, not holding on to it. Similarly for a bicycle, your body should be supported by your core, while your hands just rest on the handlebar. If steering input is required, an extremely gentle push on the bars should be applied.
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If you force yourself to ride in the drops, over your next three or four rides, I bet your problem will be solved. You just have to get comfortable riding there.
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For me, I used the trainer to get comfortable in the drops and build up core strength. When I switched to the road, riding in the drops was a piece of cake.
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I remember well how squirrelly the drop bar bike felt the first time I got on it. I got used to it after a few days though. It's normal.
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As stated above, you will soon develop the ability to make those micro steering/correction adjustments and you won't even think about it again. After a thousand miles on our tandem, my first ride back on a single felt so weird. I got used to over adjusting to compensate for the stoker movements and lost my fine tuning on the single. A few rides and I relearned. Next roller ride is going to be tough for the first few minutes.
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Agreed that its a matter of getting used to.
You're actually more stable in the drops because your center of gravity is lower. You should corner and descend in the drops for that reason.
You're actually more stable in the drops because your center of gravity is lower. You should corner and descend in the drops for that reason.
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It shouldn't be like that. Drops are the position that give the best control, and descending and tricky turns should always be ridden in the drops.
It does take some getting used to. You should be comfortable riding flat terrain in the drops for a longer time. Once you do that, the handling will feel better too.
It does take some getting used to. You should be comfortable riding flat terrain in the drops for a longer time. Once you do that, the handling will feel better too.
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When everyone refers to the "drops" do you all mean the drops versus the hooks. Or either are same story?
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This is a good question. When I say that I'm in the drops, I usually mean that my hands are deep into the hooks, directly behind the levers, and that my hands are nearly vertical. This is where my hands are when I'm cornering, sprinting, or descending. Anytime there's high stress.
However, you could also say that you are in the drops when your hands are on the portion of the bar that extends backwards, quite aways from the lever, and they are horizontal. This is a low stress position and you could be cruising without need to reach the levers so immediately.
However, you could also say that you are in the drops when your hands are on the portion of the bar that extends backwards, quite aways from the lever, and they are horizontal. This is a low stress position and you could be cruising without need to reach the levers so immediately.
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Caloso makes good distinctions, and you can see that drops and hooks are interchangeable terms.
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If we're being technical, though, I do like this:
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