Approximately How much have you invested in butt comfort?
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Good luck in your search. FWIW, another saddle I had looked at is the Tioga Spyder Twintail2. Has a somewhat different design you could try.
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My Selles are leather with cutouts, and so is a specialized I have. Are you thinking of something else?
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$30 carbon saddle and Castelli bibs, no issues, rode 12,500 miles last year on that cheap saddle. I think I just got lucky and found a good fit with the first saddle I bought.
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I currently have two road bikes and two off road, two Brooks B17N, one Brooks Professional and a Wrights. All bought used. B17s are two wide for me. The N’s are 15 centimeters wide, makes a bid difference! I have a B17 I need to sell.
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Our costs are through the roof. Because of out inability to solve butt and neck issues we have went to mostly all recumbent riding. My wife is taking delivery of a custom Ti recumbent today. Many dollars invested. Gone are all butt and neck issues, along with numb hands.
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With "wedgie" bikes, I spent years (and $$) trying various seat designs in order to mitigate the mashing of my prostate gland & penile artery. I finally admitted that balancing the entire weight of one's body on one's crotch was an anatomically unsafe thing to do. So, I switched to recumbents where you actually sit on your buttocks as God intended.
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I switched to recumbent. Solved the problem. Like riding a BarcaLounger.
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My road bike, a Moots titanium (yes I realize that's redundant since Moots only builds Ti, but maybe some don't), has a Brooks B17 Special Titanium. It has been comfortable for 10s of 1000s of kms over a 9 year stretch. I don't remember what I paid, but looking at the Brooks website today, I must have been feeling pretty flush when I spec'd my bike, because it's $290USD, and I would have likely paid well over $300 in CAD. My tri bike, a Kestrel carbon, has an ISM PN 3.1. I paid about $300 for it also. It's not particularly comfortable when I'm not in the aero position, but by far the most comfortable I've used when in the aero position. Even with it though, by the end of an iron distance bike split, I've had enough. I mention the bike frame because I think the frame matters to butt comfort too. As does the chamois. I prefer Pearl Izumi, Assos, and Endura. Most of those shorts were $200+ also. As I proofread this response, I now don't believe my butt is worth what I've spent on it.
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My road bike, a Moots titanium (yes I realize that's redundant since Moots only builds Ti, but maybe some don't), has a Brooks B17 Special Titanium. It has been comfortable for 10s of 1000s of kms over a 9 year stretch. I don't remember what I paid, but looking at the Brooks website today, I must have been feeling pretty flush when I spec'd my bike, because it's $290USD, and I would have likely paid well over $300 in CAD. My tri bike, a Kestrel carbon, has an ISM PN 3.1. I paid about $300 for it also. It's not particularly comfortable when I'm not in the aero position, but by far the most comfortable I've used when in the aero position. Even with it though, by the end of an iron distance bike split, I've had enough. I mention the bike frame because I think the frame matters to butt comfort too. As does the chamois. I prefer Pearl Izumi, Assos, and Endura. Most of those shorts were $200+ also. As I proofread this response, I now don't believe my butt is worth what I've spent on it.
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I have a Fabric Scoop Elite Shallow saddle on my road and gravel bikes. Only about $45 each. Just seem to fit my sit bones just right. But biggest investment is bike fits. A fit for my tri bike and gravel bike were about $300 but worth every penny. For my road bike maybe $200 as I had that years prior.
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Negative on that. In my upright-riding days I'd ride 150+ miles every weekend and shorter 25-mile evening rides during the week. The sore butt got slightly more tolerable but never went away. I finally replace the saddle with a seat, which cured the problem permanently.
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I used to spend all kinds of time and money looking for the right saddle.
Now it's a Planet Bike A.R.S. for $35 on everything except the old Crack N' Fail Criterium - makes me go faster so I can get off the thing quicker!
The 2.8 Cannondale BTW is a great race day ride and has never cracked or failed. When the 68 year old is kicking 25 year old butt come race day some credit has to go to the equipment!
Now it's a Planet Bike A.R.S. for $35 on everything except the old Crack N' Fail Criterium - makes me go faster so I can get off the thing quicker!
The 2.8 Cannondale BTW is a great race day ride and has never cracked or failed. When the 68 year old is kicking 25 year old butt come race day some credit has to go to the equipment!
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I got my current saddle at least 10 or 11 years ago. Cost me maybe $70, and it's still (I'm kind of surprised that it's lasted so long) fine. Sometimes I think it's awful, but usually it seems just right.
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I've got saddles on at least 15 regular riders.
Some are better than others.
Butt when I ride, I'm off the saddle enough to avoid discomfort. Sometimes only a millimeter or two.
Do you guys ride with full weight on the saddle for hours? For those with problems maybe re-think your riding style?
After 35+ years cycling as an adult, I confess all my centuries are now metric.
Some are better than others.
Butt when I ride, I'm off the saddle enough to avoid discomfort. Sometimes only a millimeter or two.
Do you guys ride with full weight on the saddle for hours? For those with problems maybe re-think your riding style?
After 35+ years cycling as an adult, I confess all my centuries are now metric.
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i put my load mostly on the rear rack.
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I've got saddles on at least 15 regular riders.
Some are better than others.
Butt when I ride, I'm off the saddle enough to avoid discomfort. Sometimes only a millimeter or two.
Do you guys ride with full weight on the saddle for hours? For those with problems maybe re-think your riding style?
Some are better than others.
Butt when I ride, I'm off the saddle enough to avoid discomfort. Sometimes only a millimeter or two.
Do you guys ride with full weight on the saddle for hours? For those with problems maybe re-think your riding style?
Accompanying that was a switch to touring bars so I can have a standing position that can be used almost indefinitely when necessary.
Still if you wrap the forward section, you can move forward over a range of at least 9” and shift from semi-upright to more of an endurance posture and on to the center section with an even lower angle, and the other option I may add this spring is bar ends in the center section for an aero position. Kind of pointless ATM due to the need to negotiate mud with the weight back and a wide grip.
Taken together, it’s eliminated any vestiges of issues from either saddle or hands or wrists. 👍
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I currently have a Decathlon saddle on my bike which is mediocre at best (it starts to get particularly uncomfortable after about 100km of riding) so yesterday after reading about the Brooks Cambium series I decided to splurge and bought a C15 online. It should get here in a day or two and then I'll be able to find out if it's as comfortable as the reviews say it is.
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The saddle I currently use (and love) is the Selle Italia SLR Flow. It's a great saddle with a just enough of a "pocket" that I can settle in for hours at a time but flat enough that it is super easy to shift around when I'm climbing or descending. I got a good deal on this saddle about $150 or so with the titanium rails.
Shorts I'm wearing PI Pro Bibs. Tights I wear a couple different Castelli Bibs when the temp drops. All over $200 but both the shorts and the tights are amazingly comfortable with great chamois.
Shorts I'm wearing PI Pro Bibs. Tights I wear a couple different Castelli Bibs when the temp drops. All over $200 but both the shorts and the tights are amazingly comfortable with great chamois.
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Counting saddles and shorts/bibs, maybe $300.
My favorite saddle was free, a giveaway from the LBS junk bin. Old very worn Selle San Marco racing saddle, split tail, flexible shell with thinly padded cover. Wish I could find an identical newer version, but this model dates back to the early 2000s. So comfy I don't really need padded shorts for most rides. Yet it's a conventional looking narrow road bike saddle, not a "comfort" saddle.
My other half dozen saddles cost $20 each or less, so not much expense there. I scrounge LBS junk bins and online blowout sales for saddles. Two of those half dozen saddles are good enough to ride routinely on the right bikes. One or two are miserable and eventually I'll give 'em away.
I've probably spent more on padded shorts and bibs, but I've paid only $15-$25 for shorts and $30-$50 for bibs, mostly Black Bibs, Przewalski and Spotti, which are much better quality than those silly names would imply. Well, Przewalski is a respectable name, but Spotti sounds like the cat walked on the marketing guy's keyboard to choose a name, then left a spot on the carpet.
My favorite saddle was free, a giveaway from the LBS junk bin. Old very worn Selle San Marco racing saddle, split tail, flexible shell with thinly padded cover. Wish I could find an identical newer version, but this model dates back to the early 2000s. So comfy I don't really need padded shorts for most rides. Yet it's a conventional looking narrow road bike saddle, not a "comfort" saddle.
My other half dozen saddles cost $20 each or less, so not much expense there. I scrounge LBS junk bins and online blowout sales for saddles. Two of those half dozen saddles are good enough to ride routinely on the right bikes. One or two are miserable and eventually I'll give 'em away.
I've probably spent more on padded shorts and bibs, but I've paid only $15-$25 for shorts and $30-$50 for bibs, mostly Black Bibs, Przewalski and Spotti, which are much better quality than those silly names would imply. Well, Przewalski is a respectable name, but Spotti sounds like the cat walked on the marketing guy's keyboard to choose a name, then left a spot on the carpet.
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Counting saddles and shorts/bibs, maybe $300.
My favorite saddle was free, a giveaway from the LBS junk bin. Old very worn Selle San Marco racing saddle, split tail, flexible shell with thinly padded cover. Wish I could find an identical newer version, but this model dates back to the early 2000s. So comfy I don't really need padded shorts for most rides. Yet it's a conventional looking narrow road bike saddle, not a "comfort" saddle.
My other half dozen saddles cost $20 each or less, so not much expense there. I scrounge LBS junk bins and online blowout sales for saddles. Two of those half dozen saddles are good enough to ride routinely on the right bikes. One or two are miserable and eventually I'll give 'em away.
I've probably spent more on padded shorts and bibs, but I've paid only $15-$25 for shorts and $30-$50 for bibs, mostly Black Bibs, Przewalski and Spotti, which are much better quality than those silly names would imply. Well, Przewalski is a respectable name, but Spotti sounds like the cat walked on the marketing guy's keyboard to choose a name, then left a spot on the carpet.
My favorite saddle was free, a giveaway from the LBS junk bin. Old very worn Selle San Marco racing saddle, split tail, flexible shell with thinly padded cover. Wish I could find an identical newer version, but this model dates back to the early 2000s. So comfy I don't really need padded shorts for most rides. Yet it's a conventional looking narrow road bike saddle, not a "comfort" saddle.
My other half dozen saddles cost $20 each or less, so not much expense there. I scrounge LBS junk bins and online blowout sales for saddles. Two of those half dozen saddles are good enough to ride routinely on the right bikes. One or two are miserable and eventually I'll give 'em away.
I've probably spent more on padded shorts and bibs, but I've paid only $15-$25 for shorts and $30-$50 for bibs, mostly Black Bibs, Przewalski and Spotti, which are much better quality than those silly names would imply. Well, Przewalski is a respectable name, but Spotti sounds like the cat walked on the marketing guy's keyboard to choose a name, then left a spot on the carpet.
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