seypat

Very clean and down to business! So opposite of the "look at me" image of the modern machines. It could be build of the year. But don't forget about the Pinarello a couple of pages back. Both are very similar looking bikes.

bwilli88 

That Dean Castanza looks great with nice and tight cable housings up front but that RD housing looks waaaaaaayy too long. Not only are the tire labels not lined up, are the tires different from each other, the rear looks smaller than the front.

Chrome Molly

I'm more of an AABBA guy. We roll about 30 miles south of the Cape.

jaseyjase

SRAM recommend a longer RD cable housing for smoother operation. Function>Form here

noglider 

I started converting my 1982 McLean yesterday. Since I built the bike in 1983, it has had mostly Campagnolo Nuovo stuff on it. BB is Sugino, and chainrings are Super Record.

I brought the bike up to the country and forgot that I don't have complete duplicate sets of tools. I left my master link pliers and my crank extractor in the city, so I could not remove the chain or cranks.

I got a Tiagra set of derailleurs and shifters from a BF member. The FD didn't fit, as it is made for a 34.9mm seat tube. I was able to fashion a shim, and it looked like maybe it would work, but then I happened upon an Ultegra FD in one of my bins, so I thought, hey, perfect, and it is even lighter. But it doesn't work. Could it be because the Tiagra FD requires a different cable pull than the Ultegra? Or could it be because I am using an old Campagnolo Record crankset? Both FD's are triple, and the existing crank is a double.

I am not sure what chain is on there now. It might be 7- or 8- or 9-speed. It seems to work fine with the 9-speed cassette. Well, it did get a little noisy at times, so I shifted it down and then back up, and the noise went away. I wonder if there was a resonance that I killed by placing the chain on different teeth. It's weird but honestly, it wasn't annoying.

For whatever it's worth, the brifters work very well with the Campagnolo Record single-pivot brakes. I expected them, too, and it's nice that there were no surprises there.

Pictures soon.

For now, I have a few cranksets to choose from. I have a 105 (or so) triple crank which should work well, I guess, but it has one or two steel chainrings. I'd prefer all aluminum. I've already made this bike heavier with this conversion. I have some older, pre-hyperdrive Sugino cranksets I'd rather use. Are they likely to work? I realize I can just try it, but how important is hyperdrive when using brifters. Oh my god, I just realized that that could be the problem with the Campy crankset, eh?

ratfink76

Can't wait to see these pics!

I am doing a Tiagra brifter build as well, but this frame uses a braze on FD and I have an Ultegra one in the parts bin. 105 RD, Tri-Color crankset, Tetra brakes with a white Concor Light saddle. White grip tape and cables on order. Campy Chorus seatpost, Cinelli bars.

These are the only rims I have, but I am going to de-sticker them so hopefully they will do the job for now even though they are black.

Pics of the frame and with a few parts mounted:

crn

My modern retro build... Master 1993 with Chorus11 and Zondas

link0

^^^

Great looking Colnago and perfectly built.

PhilPub

^^ Lovely Colnago!

I'm a little nervous about an upcoming flight to Mallorca, as I've decided to take the Ron Cooper out with me. Here's something I learnt recently about the unique properties of a vintage steel/modern groupset build. Quill stem + neat brifter cable job = very awkward packing in a bike box! I've had to disattach the cables from the front brake and both gear mechs to get the stem out of the frame. Just hoping I can get it all fitted together and functioning properly at the other end. Hopefully it'll all be worth it and I can report back with some scenic shots of Ron up a mountain!

kingfishr

Not sure it is only steel frames. I took my Specialized Tarmac to Mallorca this year and had to about the same as you. And on top of that the handlebars would not find inside the triangle like the directions showed. Next year I am taking my Colnago Master!

RobbieTunes

That's a hot one, Joe!

RobbieTunes

What size chainrings do you need, and what BCD?

RobbieTunes

+ them.

gomango

Heh crn, Welcome.

Your Colnago is perfect.

My Elegant is also a 1993.

[IMG]DSCN5834 by gomango1849, on Flickr[/IMG]

noglider 

Wow, what a nice offer! I'll let you know. I'm not sure when I'll be upstate next to continue the work. Thank you!

agchopz

My centurion is coming a long nicely but im having a hard time with the derailleurs i cant get the front to shift for the life of me.

kaiseroscar

Firstly this thread is AMAZING.

I have a NOS early 1990's Venturi, Columbus Brain frame
130mm rear spacing
Internal cable routing on the top tube.
Downtube shifters which I have got cable stops for.
I am considering either shimano 105 5800 or Ultegra 6800 for the group (Sacrilege/Frankenstein I know)


My two questions are -

Has anyone had a problem with the height of the front derailleur braze plate being used with a compact 50/34 crankset. What I mean is, as this frame was probably designed for a triple or a 53/39 will the difference in height pose a problem for the front derailleur?

Secondly - If your rear spacing is 130mm should you be all good for a modern 11 speed shimano cassette/wheel?



This is my first road bike build, first steel bike in fact and this thread has been truly inspiring.

Thanks in advance

upthywazzoo 

130mm is good for modern 10/11 speed

kaiseroscar

Many thanks

RobbieTunes

Firstly, if the rear spacing is 130mm, the wheel will fit in the frame. However, if you haven't encountered the cassette issue, the rear freehub carrier needs to have about 37mm of room for an 11-sp cassette. If you're buying dedicated 11-speed wheels, no problem. Most 8/9/10 rear hubs will not accommodate that 11-sp cassette. Some will, for example, modern Mavics (suddenly making that Ksyrium and Aksium set a bit more valuable).

Secondly, I've moved back and forth between compact and full size on several frames with braze-on FD mounts, never had a problem. In fact, I have had extra space on the FD tab both times. You may not be able to mount that second bolt on an SRAM FD, but they only require one bolt, anyway.

kaiseroscar

That is really very helpful mate. Thanks a lot.

In terms of wheels, whatever they are they'll be new 11 speed compatible ones.

Thanks all

agchopz

No one came across huge chainline problems? with the hollowtech II bottombrack and my 6700 crank, my 6700 ultegra derailleur doesnt have enough pull to reach the outside ring now. The line is too far off

upthywazzoo 

Was the 6700 crank matched with the bottom bracket?

agchopz

Tiagra hollowtech II BB with ultegra 6700 crankset. i believe they go together well.

upthywazzoo 

Did you set it up with spacers to adjust the chainline according to Shimano's manual?