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Old 05-13-23, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by georges1
In some disciplines like cross country, free ride and enduro, the aluminium rim is was the undisputed king with Mavic who won most of the world championships and olympic titles with the Cross Max and the Deemax. Regarding road bike, carbon wheels are the king with Dura Ace wheels now and before that there was the Mavic Cosmic Carbon which won many races in the Tour de France as well as many worldwide UCI championships since 1993 . Let's not forget ZIPP and Hed who are very present names in the triathlon races.
fify; a simple tense change (one verb) makes your statement(s) much more accurate.

I have no interest in carbon wheels for my own needs, but they are without question now pretty much standard in elite/pro level road and mtb racing (xc, and enduro and downhill).
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Originally Posted by Eric F
What makes you concerned that there is a high potential for failure with CF wheels? Do you often ride with no rear tire with the intent to break the rim?
Certainly not, I only ride tubeless alloy rims with conti tires and never had flat within 6 years . During on trail ride 5 years ago, one of the guy who riding rev-x MTB wheels had a huge flat when he rode in a very deep pothole and at 1km when going back to his home his rear wheel broke. And another trail ride more than 2 years ago, a guy I knew who used to do jumps constantly with his MTB (he loved to abuse his carbon enve wheels) , broke his front wheel during a descent on a very rough terrain. Depends of how you treat your wheels and how you ride with them.
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Originally Posted by georges1
In some disciplines like cross country, free ride and enduro, the aluminium rim is the undisputed king with Mavic who won most of the world championships and olympic titles with the Cross Max and the Deemax sponsored riders who were strong enough to win while using Mavic wheels.
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Originally Posted by badger1
fify; a simple tense change (one verb) makes your statement(s) much more accurate.

I have no interest in carbon wheels for my own needs, but they are without question now pretty much standard in elite/pro level road and mtb racing (xc, and enduro and downhill).
I checked the mavic site even the crossmax slr is now in carbon and only available in 29 not even in 27.5 or in 26, the alloy version the crossmax sls is 3 times cheaper, times have changed.
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Any cycling product made from carbon is guaranteed to suffer a catastrophic failure....The only reason why some people never break a carbon bike or some other carbon component is because they're very easy and gentle on their bikes.
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Originally Posted by georges1
Certainly not, I only ride tubeless alloy rims with conti tires and never had flat within 6 years . During on trail ride 5 years ago, one of the guy who riding rev-x MTB wheels had a huge flat when he rode in a very deep pothole and at 1km when going back to his home his rear wheel broke. And another trail ride more than 2 years ago, a guy I knew who used to do jumps constantly with his MTB (he loved to abuse his carbon enve wheels) , broke his front wheel during a descent on a very rough terrain. Depends of how you treat your wheels and how you ride with them.
Your rationale for being concerned about CF wheels is 2 incidents in the last 5 years with situations that may well have destroyed any wheel, regardless of material? Well…okay, then. You do you.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Any cycling product made from carbon is guaranteed to suffer a catastrophic failure....The only reason why some people never break a carbon bike or some other carbon component is because they're very easy and gentle on their bikes.
Utter nonsense.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Any cycling product made from carbon is guaranteed to suffer a catastrophic failure....The only reason why some people never break a carbon bike or some other carbon component is because they're very easy and gentle on their bikes.
I have to agree.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Videos like these are made for two reasons, entertainment and profit Out in the real world majority of people with carbon bikes and wheels are too scared of riding up or down a 3 inch curb..
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Out in the real world majority of people with carbon bikes and wheels are too scared of riding up or down a 3 inch curb..
You’re a never-ending stream of false information.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Videos like these are made for two reasons, entertainment and profit Out in the real world majority of people with carbon bikes and wheels are too scared of riding up or down a 3 inch curb..
Before you make statements like that, you should have some experience there first.

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Utter nonsense.
Actually, it's absolute total unmitigated complete unadulterated total outright out-and-out categorical unqualified utter nonsense.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Any cycling product made from carbon, regardless of what it is made of, is guaranteed to suffer a catastrophic failure, because someone, somewhere, invariably does something dramatically stupid with their bicycle.
Fixed it.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Actually, it's absolute total unmitigated complete unadulterated total outright out-and-out categorical unqualified utter nonsense.
qft
There actually is a word, in common use, that in itself sums up that individual's posts on virtually any topic. I doubt the word would pass teh Biek Formz' Central Scrutinizer, but my grandfather's favoured equivalent -- which also has an initial voiced bilabial stop, might. Let's try: 'bollocks.'
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Originally Posted by georges1
In some disciplines like cross country, free ride and enduro, the aluminium rim is the undisputed king with Mavic who won most of the world championships and olympic titles with the Cross Max and the Deemax. Regarding road bike, carbon wheels are the king with Dura Ace wheels now and before that there was the Mavic Cosmic Carbon which won many races in the Tour de France as well as many worldwide UCI championships since 1993 . Let's not forget ZIPP and Hed who are very present names in the triathlon races.
Here is a 5 time world champion on cf wheels.
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I stopped riding my CF bike, not because of this thread, but because my legs are toast. Maybe it’s the carbons fault? Probably. Way too heavy. Then there are the carbon wheels. Maybe it’s their fault too. Definitely. My steel bike would have never done that to me even though it weighs 7 lbs more. Steel is real kind.
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Here is my carbon fiber bike. It hasn't broken yet even though I have abused it for 5 years. Well, the aluminum rear rim broke. I have broken 3 steel frames and 1 aluminum frame.
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Question, if a pro wants to ride steel or titanium , can he. Or does he have to ride whatever the team sponsor wants ?
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Originally Posted by big john
Here is a 5 time world champion on cf wheels.
Aaron Gwin Race Run Replay | Val Di Sole MTB World Cup 2022 - YouTube
Thanks for sharing , I never heard of him , very impressive downhill racing Palmares
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Originally Posted by big john
Here is my carbon fiber bike. It hasn't broken yet even though I have abused it for 5 years. Well, the aluminum rear rim broke. I have broken 3 steel frames and 1 aluminum frame.
Intersting and thanks for sharing Were the steel frames hardtails? Was the aluminium a full suspended one ?
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Originally Posted by georges1
In some disciplines like cross country…the aluminium rim is the undisputed king…
This ^^^ is not anywhere close to being correct in recent years. If you are at all interested in posting accurate information, I suggest that it’s time to do some research to update your knowledge. If your agenda is to just spout anti-CF crap, expect to keep getting push-back.
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Originally Posted by georges1
Intersting and thanks for sharing Were the steel frames hardtails? Was the aluminium a full suspended one ?
I had a Trek 660 crack around the bb. Only had about 15K miles on it. Broke the head tube on an "English" 3 speed. Broke the chainstay on a nice Nishiki hardtail. Broke the frame in half on an aluminum short travel mtb. It stood up to me for 10 years before that.

Friends have broken several aluminum road bikes including a Cinelli and a Trek.
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Originally Posted by rossiny
Question, if a pro wants to ride steel or titanium , can he. Or does he have to ride whatever the team sponsor wants ?
In the old days some pros could get a custom bike made by a framebuilder and just paint it the team colors. Pretty tough to do that now. I suppose a big enough star could try to do it, but why?
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Originally Posted by Eric F
This ^^^ is not anywhere close to being correct in recent years. If you are at all interested in posting accurate information, I suggest that it’s time to do some research to update your knowledge. If your agenda is to just spout anti-CF crap, expect to keep getting push-back.
Things have changed in the dowhill racing scene but I haven't followed it since some years. I will do some research and update my knowledge,I am also here for learning new things.I do like older OCLV trek mountain bikes because they were built like tanks as well as older carbon road frames from Trek, Look, Time, Colnago and Specialized.
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Originally Posted by big john
I had a Trek 660 crack around the bb. Only had about 15K miles on it. Broke the head tube on an "English" 3 speed. Broke the chainstay on a nice Nishiki hardtail. Broke the frame in half on an aluminum short travel mtb. It stood up to me for 10 years before that.

Friends have broken several aluminum road bikes including a Cinelli and a Trek.
Interesting testimonial thanks for sharing.
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