Laggard

Couldn't f#cking care less if they all dope. It's never taken any enjoyment out of it for me to find out that they're using EPO and similar drugs. I really don't f#cking care! Let it be legal and we'll have a level playing field and avoid this type of crap in future races.

Der KAISER

I heard that your son wants to become a bike racer.....

Ih8lucky13

What are the chances of that happening, you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning.


Let them dope. It doesn't cheapen it for me in fact I am more willing to support athletes who go that extra mile to please me the fan.

RockyMtnMerlin

I hope that was meant to be sarcastic.

xfimpg

Same here. Couldn't care less if they dope. Dope Control Agencies only exist to create employment.

Richard_Rides

Please add my name to the growing list of people who don't care if they dope. Thank you.

Laggard

I figured I'd be the only one who felt this way. Wow.

Longfemur

Would it be possible to create a troglodyte forum?

xfimpg

No way, dude. A lot of us feel this way.

We should start a petition.

Devil

I don't care either.

sax

Doping=Good for dealers!

J.W.

Ditto.

SunSwingsLow

The fan is unstoppable. It doesnt matter what the athletes do we will watch. Roids, gamble on the games, epo, get caught dealing drugs, drunk drivers and wife beaters.

No one gives a damn. Just entertain us and we'll keep showing up, buying jerseys and watching on TV.

As far as bike racing goes, i think epo is great. I mean huge attacks coming on 10+% grades? I love that stuff. Who cares if hes jacked up. Its friking awesome to watch.

robema

allright then,i'll have a bit of that!

dmoney19

Doping allows certain people to have an advantage?? Not if everyone dopes....

With designer drugs and stem cell research readying to hit the market in the next few years, tracking and testing for dope will get to be near impossible.

Pharmr

I don't really care, as long as all are allowed to dope....if it stays illegal, and some guys stay clean...it's not right for guys to have to work extra hard, just because they're clean.

SunSwingsLow

And theres the problem. How do you regulate the drug use. Its obvious every athlete is looking for an edge and if everyone is getting the same edge then what will they do outside the boundaries to gain more of an edge.

or

Do you just say do what ever you can and who ever has the best doctors has the advantage.

Gagonthis

lets take it a step further, why not require all the atheletes to take performance enhancing drugs. Make them shoot up right there on televison, in front of the world and have phil liggett offer commentary while they do it.

then make them all race without a saddle. just the seat post.

Le Tour de Pharmacy.......

Kurt Erlenbach

Here is what's wrong with your idea:
1. https://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nat...ho-is-the.html
2. https://outside.away.com/outside/cult...-doping-1.html

The first article is a discussion about who is the world's fastest clean woman in the 100 meters. It assumes that Flo Jo's 10.46 it tainted, and Marion Jones' 10.63 is no good, leaving to another woamn who ran 10.7. Records don't matter if some are doping and others don't

The second is abut Joe Papp, a mid-level pro cyclist who started doping to get into the top tier, and got caught. Now he lives with his mother. Doping not only takes a top level athlete to the pinnacle, it takes a mid-level athlete into contention with the top in the field, or takes a low level pro into the mid level, or makes the weekend wannabe into the guy who wins the weekend crit. The drugs are also bad for you, and possibly deadly. If the gym rat lifter wants to dope up, you can say it's his life. But I think anyone who wants a fair race, from the weekend club to the Tour, shouldn't have to take his life into his hands to compete. You know there will always be people who will try for the advantage today, and worry about the conseqeunces later.

gpsblake

The problem with allowing all doping to go on is that they will push the limits of it to the edge if it was legal... in other words, racers would eventually be pushing death. They would use experimental or unsafe drugs if a taking drugs was legally enabled.

I also understand the argument from the other side.....

Edgecrusher

I'm with you Laggard - who gives a flying f**k.
If they want to dope...so be it. Maybe they'll get caught
eventually, and now it seems sooner than later. But
the performances are incredible when they are on peds.

Bobke's comments are so ridiculous too, and I like the guy.
The sport will go away...pphhhht. yea, ok.

merlinextraligh

Apparently you never watched a pre EPO tour. By all accounts, modern doping has lead to more homogenous, more predictable racing.

You no longer have people suffering through bad days, and signifciant swings in performance.

With the possible exception of 2003, no EPO era tour (1992 or so to present day) can compare to some of the epic tours and performances prior to 1990.

merlinextraligh

time to cue the SNL All Doping Olympics cue.

[Unfortunately the link I have has been removed for coyright issues. Suffice it to say, "he's going to feel that tomorrow"]

xfimpg

And that would be the only way the riders will learn; take drugs, play with death.

JoelS

I don't like the doping. There, I said it. I think it sucks. Part of this sport is about the limits of the human body. Introducing drugs to expand those limits cheapens it. I also think that the sponsors ought to drop the teams like a hot potato. Supporting these cheaters isn't good marketing money spent.