Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
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What shift levers are you using with that XTR RD?
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#7752
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Beautiful
Haven't posted in a while. I had been riding an '89 Schwinn Paramount that I adored, but a couple years ago it was stolen out of my garage. Some time later, an eBay search alert popped up for "Lemond Zurich" and it happened to be my favorite colorway/year for any of the Trek-built frames AND signed by the man himself. Initially built it up in silver with 7800 and aluminum rims and then rebuilt it last year with new everything and a Columbus Minimal fork painted to match (because it's extra af). Awesome ride, and hopefully I can keep it forever.
Well done!
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#7755
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My daily a old Columbus framed steelie (repainted a few weeks ago with spray cans to look like the Raleigh Banana of the 80's) with 105 groupset, tektro brakes as the 105 ones didn't have the reach, and a pair of Hed3 shod in 23mm rubber as that as big as can go. Yes I am feeling the bumps ps I have since cut the cable ends as I replaced all the cables while it was being rebuilt
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Schwinn Premis powdercoated with 105 5800 drivetrain and hubs.
I used an innicycle conversion headset. That alone was more than the frame, but it opens up options and is quality!
This is a 63.5cm frame and I have the contact points so they are the same as my main road bike which is 65cm. This means a bit more seatpost and stem are showing on this build.
I used an innicycle conversion headset. That alone was more than the frame, but it opens up options and is quality!
This is a 63.5cm frame and I have the contact points so they are the same as my main road bike which is 65cm. This means a bit more seatpost and stem are showing on this build.
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Schwinn Premis powdercoated with 105 5800 drivetrain and hubs.
I used an innicycle conversion headset. That alone was more than the frame, but it opens up options and is quality!
This is a 63.5cm frame and I have the contact points so they are the same as my main road bike which is 65cm. This means a bit more seatpost and stem are showing on this build.
I used an innicycle conversion headset. That alone was more than the frame, but it opens up options and is quality!
This is a 63.5cm frame and I have the contact points so they are the same as my main road bike which is 65cm. This means a bit more seatpost and stem are showing on this build.
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After the fit analysis, I asked if the person I had sold my Land Shark frame to wanted to sell it back to me. He did. I need to send him pictures now after mulling over the build of it, and then making the tough decision to transfer the components from my Davidson Impulse to this. Don't mind the Vittoria's tan walls just wilting in color saturation in the photo. They are more lively in real life.
64cm (actually 64.5cm if the TT was level) Davidson to a 66cm 'Shark. I've tried period correct silver components. They get completely lost with this paint job. Couldn't do that again. I initially put some black pieces on it, and all of a sudden the paint work came alive. Ultegra 6770 Di2 from the Davidson to this, with better extra-length wire management. I get 17.5mm of bar height back, which feels really good. Being hunched over with 3" saddle-to-hood drop for long distances is something I'm not about/about any more. 2" or less, but it needs to still look right.
Note: BRAKES: The front brake reach is so short/little that I couldn't get the 6800 caliper's pads up high enough, and thus had to revert to 11-speed Campagnolo Athena units. This was great because 1) the gloss black looks soooo good next to the paint, versus the semi-meh matte dark grey 6800 calipers. 2) The Athena brake calipers weigh the same and offer tons of stopping power. Folks, do not worry about compatibility here. They're fantastic!
This bike is HOT. And what I trade in infectious acceleration and climbing, I receive in incredible smoothness. Yeah, big tires have their merits, but have you met a Prestige-tubed Land Shark frame and fork??? Scary smooth.
64cm (actually 64.5cm if the TT was level) Davidson to a 66cm 'Shark. I've tried period correct silver components. They get completely lost with this paint job. Couldn't do that again. I initially put some black pieces on it, and all of a sudden the paint work came alive. Ultegra 6770 Di2 from the Davidson to this, with better extra-length wire management. I get 17.5mm of bar height back, which feels really good. Being hunched over with 3" saddle-to-hood drop for long distances is something I'm not about/about any more. 2" or less, but it needs to still look right.
Note: BRAKES: The front brake reach is so short/little that I couldn't get the 6800 caliper's pads up high enough, and thus had to revert to 11-speed Campagnolo Athena units. This was great because 1) the gloss black looks soooo good next to the paint, versus the semi-meh matte dark grey 6800 calipers. 2) The Athena brake calipers weigh the same and offer tons of stopping power. Folks, do not worry about compatibility here. They're fantastic!
This bike is HOT. And what I trade in infectious acceleration and climbing, I receive in incredible smoothness. Yeah, big tires have their merits, but have you met a Prestige-tubed Land Shark frame and fork??? Scary smooth.
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So the Amazon Chinese shifters just were't comfortable and really didn't brake all that well. So now it's old Campy 10, shifting an XT 9 speed derailleur, covering a 7 speed Suntour cassette and remarkably it all works.
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As pictured, it's a quite-light 20.35 lb, not that low weight was the goal. I'd need Dura-Ace Di2 or 7900 mechanical to take the weight below 20 lb (as I've done with my '87 Prologue).
#7766
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My 1992 Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra (one of the rare ones that's built from Columbus Max tubes) "modernized" with a 2000's 10 speed Campagnolo Chorus/Record groupset.
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I had built this as a singlespeed, just to see how I liked the ride of it. It was nice, and I had some 4600-series Tiagra parts on the shelf, so I decided to give it gears.
This is a pretty nice frame to get the beater bike treatment -- an early 80's Viner, I think. It's got a stuck seatpost, but the seatpost happens to be stuck exactly where I need it (with this saddle, at least). I've been riding it with the binder bolt loose, hoping thousands of taps with a 200-pound hammer will knock it loose, but so far it isn't budging.
This is a pretty nice frame to get the beater bike treatment -- an early 80's Viner, I think. It's got a stuck seatpost, but the seatpost happens to be stuck exactly where I need it (with this saddle, at least). I've been riding it with the binder bolt loose, hoping thousands of taps with a 200-pound hammer will knock it loose, but so far it isn't budging.
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Love your build here! Its good to see some Sram drivetrains. I'm a recent convert to Sram from Shimano. Recently built up a Bridgestone RB-1 with Apex. To say I'm happy with it is an understatement. I am completely in love with it. I put the 10 spd 105 shifters in the bin on the shelf. Admittedly they were from a different build and I sold the frame. I have no plans to go back to Shimano any time soon. I'm actually planning to build up another old steel frame with more tire clearance with Sram but this time go with a Rival or Force. One advantage to Sram 10 spd is the ability to use a mountain rear derailleur with drop bar shifter allowing the use of a wider range cassette if you want.
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I finally got around to finishing up my Bridgestone RB-1 with Sram 2x10. I absolutely love it. Once I get it cleaned up I'll try and remember to post a closer pic of just the bike. But in the meantime here's a pic at the beginning of a recent ride. I actually rode a century and then some once the day was done.
The Sram double tap is amazing. I ignored an old friend who swore by Sram road shifters for a few years now. Now that I've experienced it I'm kicking myself. I like everything about them. The size of the levers is better for my hands. The only thing I wish I had done was buy Rival or Force. But that's another build I'm about to start.
I will admit, I'm not a huge fan of these bars. They're Salsa Cowchipper bars. I wanted to jump on the band wagon with wide and flared drop bars. I haven't used the drops that much. They're probably great on a different bike but I don't need them.
The Sram double tap is amazing. I ignored an old friend who swore by Sram road shifters for a few years now. Now that I've experienced it I'm kicking myself. I like everything about them. The size of the levers is better for my hands. The only thing I wish I had done was buy Rival or Force. But that's another build I'm about to start.
I will admit, I'm not a huge fan of these bars. They're Salsa Cowchipper bars. I wanted to jump on the band wagon with wide and flared drop bars. I haven't used the drops that much. They're probably great on a different bike but I don't need them.
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cowbell bars are closer to traditional road. there is still some flare, but its much less pronounced.
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I've been eyeing a pair from Ritchey Ergomax, Comp or WCS for a different bike build. I'm realizing I like flat top bars swept back slightly. I think the only difference between the Comp and WCS is the aluminum, weight and price. The other details look the same. Maybe I'm wrong.
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#7773
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I haven’t seen a flat-bar on the retro roadies. This is my Bianchi EL-OS with 10sp Veloce and Veloce Flat Bar Ergo shifters. It’s a nice change from my drop bar bikes. Might even try to put some fenders on it and make a really quick city bike.
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1988 Gitane Exploit with 11 speed Campagnolo Centaur and Campagnolo Zonda C17 wheels
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