kleppermaster

I have a old pair of SIDI shoes that I was using with SPD pedals. I am fixing up a vintage Pogliaghi that is all Campagnolo Nuevo & Super Record equipped. I would rather not trade the original campy Super Record pedals with toe clips out for the SPD pedals. The problem is I am having trouble finding a slotted cleat that will fit or adapt to the SIDI shoes. I started out here by using the search window, but got such a barrage of non relevant threads that I gave up and decided to post. I'm sure the information I seek is somewhere here already. I just am not skilled enough yet to find it.

As for me and my bike we are both getting pretty long in the tooth. I started out racing in the 70's and am accustomed to the slotted cleats used with toe clipped pedals. so I do know what I am getting into there.

Please share any ideas you may have.

Thanks in advance

kwhiner

Try Yellow Jersey, Andy has been selling them for some time not sure he still does but worth a shot. If they are road style shoes you should be able to adapt to slotted use.

79pmooney

Are your shoes set up for the 3-bolt LOOK cleats? If yes, you can use the aluminum Exustar track cleats, ~$20. Excellent cleats, better than anything I used BITD. But, they are aluminum, They will destroy your aluminum rattraps. I use them with the steel rattraps of the Shimano 105 semi-flat pedals with excellent results. Likewise they would work very well with Campy NR pedals.

I've been riding fix gears since the days of dinosaurs (when we all used slotted cleats). I won't go to clipless on the fix gears because one of my re-occurring nightmares is pulling one foot off a clipless pedal at 40+ mph going downhill and having that pedal hit the back of my ankle. (The crash that would follow would do me less long term damage than that pedal strike.) So, slotted cleats, quality straps in good condition pulled tight. I may still pull a cleat but my foot stays in the straps and on the pedal. I re-swallow my heart, dip the brakes and slide my cleat back in place.

Ben

Dfrost 

I may have a pair of those Sidi cleats, unused as I recall. Too late to look now, but I will do so tomorrow.

Salamandrine 

Got pictures? How old are these SIDI shoes? There were at least 3 types of cleats for SIDI shoes from the old days of slot cleats. In addition to that, there were transitional era ones set up for both clipless and slot cleats.

There was one type of SIDI cleat that had to side by side bolts kind of like an SPD cleat. I wonder if that is what you are using? You could try ebay. There might be a generic Pavarin or something that will fit.

The search engine on this site is useless BTW. It works better to search it using Google directly. type your search terms into Google, then type site:bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/

SJX426 

kleppermaster Will your SIDI's fit in a cage? I have found that mine will not due the bulk of straps vs shoe strings. I suppose you could bend the cage to fit but I failed to find satisfaction in the overall fitting. Fortunately I have an older pair of Avia that came with both types of cleats which work.
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kleppermaster

I tried loading pictures but got a error that said I had to have posted 10 posts before I could post pictures. I can't recall exactly when I bought them. Probably around 2000 to 2005.

Salamandrine 

Yeah, ten posts before you can post pics directly. You can still post a link to a flkr photo page etc.

At any rate, 2000-2005 is basically the modern era. The ones I was thinking of were from around 1980.

I'd guess your shoes may have both standard 2 bolt (SPD), and standard 3 bolt (Look) mounting points. For three bolt, you can buy old style cleats from yellowjersey.org and others. They should work as long as your Sidi's don't have big bulky straps or something that will get caught up.

Drillium Dude 

If the Sidis were new when bought in 2000-2005, they will likely not work with clips/straps even if the OP goes with the Yellow Jersey cleat adapter. The velcro straps and such will make getting into/out of the clip/strap combo iffy at best. If one wants to use vintage pedals with clips and straps, it's best to use the shoes designed specifically for use with them.

Concur that Sidi used at least 3 different cleat types in the vintage era before the Look pattern became standardized.

DD

retrodude

I was in the same dilemma with SIDI shoes made in the 80s, I tried some MKS MC2 units and they work really well, a bit tough getting into but other than that, once in, they work great

John E

Do you really need the cleats? I really like my Giro Rumbles with toeclips and straps, but I have to admit I really miss my old Avocet Touring shoes with the parallel cleat-like ribs on the soles.

Dfrost 

Yup, I have these. Definitely unused, even brand new screws. Yours for the postage.

kleppermaster

They look very nice and thanks for digging them out. However they do not match the shoes I have so I cannot use them.

fietsbob

Sold my Kangaroo upper Sidi Toe clip shoes , they had their own cleat so I bought Extras @ the time..

Still have Sidi's Toe clip cyclo-Cross shoes, in storage here ( More running carrying the bike friendly.. )

Same thing, bought extra cleats..

davester

One thing I remember about my 1980s Sidis was that the stock nylon cleats they came with were tight on the pedal cages to begin with and tended to close up even more with just a little bit of walking on them. A couple of times I tried to get them to release and instead pulled my foot out of the shoe due to them being so tight. I would definitely not go back to that setup.

kleppermaster

Here are some pictures of my shoes. That is the left one.

madpogue 

I'm imagining that buckle mechanism on the front of the tongue getting hung up with a spring steel clip. May not end well.

davester

My thought also. There's no way I'd use those shoes with toe clips and straps.

kleppermaster

Not the case at all. I removed the spd cleats and left the spd adaptor on. I cut a slot in the adaptor to match the pedal and just finished testing it out. It's no more difficult to get into or out of than my old Detto Pietro lace up shoes with aluminum slotted cleats I used to race with. The center strip of the aluminum Campagnolo toe clip rides up and over the twist lock and stays centered on it.

Salamandrine 

Interesting. Looks like they included an adapter for the older Sidi 2 bolt side-by-side slotted cleat system. That adapter looks factory to me.

I concur that that bolo dial etc will most likely get in the way if using these with clips and strap, but it may kind of sort of work. Clearly Sidi intended these shoes to work with both Look pedals and traditional clips and straps.

At any rate, as suspected these shoes have the standard and current 3 bolt 'Look' cleat mounting points. You could try the previously mentioned yellowjersey slot cleats. Those will bolt onto these 3 holes if you want to give it a shot. Alternatively I suppose you could use that adapter plate if you happened to have the correct old mid 80s Sidi slot cleats. This would add to the stack height an exacerbate any issues with the bolo hardware getting in the way. I think you're better off using slot cleats that bolt directly to the Look pattern 3 holes. Even with that it's going to be less than ideal, but like I said, maybe worth a shot.

PS Exustar makes a compatible slot cleat too. https://rsicycles.co.uk/index.php/ex...moplastic.html

Salamandrine 

CORRECTION: That adapter plate is for SPD cleats. Too far forward for slots, and obviously it has already been used to mount SPD clears. Underneath it and built into the actual shoe there appear to be mounting points for the older mid 80s Sidi slot cleats, set further back than where you'd put an SPD.