On being SEEN - NOTICED- LOOK!
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That makes sense. I drive on the same roads I cycle on. When cyclists have lights and ride in the center of the lane, I see them much sooner. Eliminates surprises. As a driver, I appreciate that so as a cyclist, that's what I do.
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Not having lights or wearing visible clothing is a sure recipe for disaster. We had a cyclist hit and killed a couple of years ago on a busy highway doing just that.
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I wish you wouldn't continually characterize my intellectual property as 'silly' or 'unhinged' or whatever dismissive term you can come up with. Stop stalking me. What would a kayaker know about any of it anyway. Every poster listing the several kinds of lights they use in the daytime to enhance visibility is putting an importance on the driver seeing them! My argument is that beyond a bare minimum, a practical minimum, there is no need to spend multiple hundreds of dollars to be safe IN DAYLIGHT. Either you is or you ain't. If a driver is texting they aren't going to see you no matter what you are flashing at them. Given that all drivers are texting while driving I am not sure why people are making such an effort to be seen.
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People texting do look up from there phones at intersections and in between or they would wrap their car around a tree, pole or a car. Flashing lights do work. Getting someones attention with noise and light at in intersection does work. Complaining about others who use lights is not a point of interest for me or other rational people.
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Guess you managed to miss the all caps in my post. But no, I'm not complaining about what anyone else does. Rock on. I'm complaining about the shaming that goes on of those who don't want to go along with the paranoia culture. Or those who present paranoia as a rational response to the daily crap that happens when you are out among the heathen IN DAYLIGHT!!!
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Unlike many European countries. The US does not require distracted drivers to be responsible for their actions especially when the injured party is a bicyclist. If someone knew they were going to end up in court and loose their right to drive they would be more attentive. The I didn't see them excuse holds no water there. The insurance lobbyists are in control of our morals in the US. Motorists have very little incentive to drive with care because their are little or no consequences for their actions in many cases. You see a few cases were a drunk or someone on drugs gets a lengthy jail sentence but most collisions involving bicyclists are deemed the bicyclists fault.
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You are fond of straw man arguments.
Every poster listing the several kinds of lights they use in the daytime to enhance visibility is putting an importance on the driver seeing them! My argument is that beyond a bare minimum, a practical minimum, there is no need to spend multiple hundreds of dollars to be safe IN DAYLIGHT. Either you is or you ain't.
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Well I have almost creamed a few bicyclists that ride without lights at night. It is why they have a law that require lights on your bike. Really its common sense. Like wearing bright colors help during the day does. To not do so, is dangerous and stupid.
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And if you can miss a delivery truck in the middle of the night, what chance do you have of seeing a bicycle.
This is incorrect. Every state in the US requires active lighting for the operation of a bicycle at night. The requirement may be for only a front light like my state but all states have at least that requirement. The Consumer Product Safety Commission requires that all bikes be sold with reflectors only but all states require active lighting on either the bike or the rider.
I've had problems with bike ninjas while on a bicycle and I have extremely good lighting on my bicycle. That said, I don't expect people to slow to a crawl everywhere they drive because an unlighted (and illegal) bicyclist may be riding in the area. That's just silly.
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