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Old 06-28-19, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
I never heard of a commuter cyclist freezing to death.
I've felt like I was going to freeze a lot more than I felt I was going to melt
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Old 06-28-19, 09:17 PM
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Hot and sunshine any day, not for comfort but for safety. I don't like slippery roads.
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Old 06-28-19, 11:08 PM
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Having ridden both extensively (Seattle and Phoenix) I would take the cold drizzle any day. My limit for commuting is about 105f and -20f respectively (fairbanks, AK)

Easy to stay warm while riding in a cold drizzle. Hard to keep cool on a sunny, hot day.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
What about 35° drizzle with leaves? I'd take 108° over that.
All in tire choice with leaves IMHO. A year of riding from Lynnwood to the U-district taught me that, especially around lake Greenlake.
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Old 06-28-19, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by suncruiser
All in tire choice with leaves IMHO. A year of riding from Lynnwood to the U-district taught me that, especially around lake Greenlake.
I've gone down hard 3 times in wet leaves. Once on MTB, sometimes tires can't save you as they can get slick as ice but studs won't help like they do on ice.

My most dramatic was right here, cruising pretty fast one night, took a right, slid across the street and up over the curb.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I've gone down hard 3 times in wet leaves. Once on MTB, sometimes tires can't save you as they can get slick as ice but studs won't help like they do on ice.

My most dramatic was right here, cruising pretty fast one night, took a right, slid across the street and up over the curb.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5066...7i13312!8i6656
That's rough. I laid it down twice running down the hill right before I got to greenlake, right where you turn onto the bike path around it. Went to a set of continental Ride Tours and it seemed a lot better for me (coming from gatorskins)

I'm a firm believer in usable tread, just don't have much use of it where I live, my commute is 99% dry, paved streets. It's just too hot to commute right now.
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Winter’s a great time to stay in and cuddle,
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Old 06-29-19, 07:42 AM
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I'll ride in the heat over rain or cold weather. I don't get completely warmed up unless it's 80-85 and 90's don't really bother me. Cold weather though is just something to endure.
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Old 06-29-19, 07:56 AM
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Cold/Drizzle. You can warm up very easily with layers. It's harder to cool down when it's hot.
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Old 06-29-19, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by crazyravr
hot HOT hoooootttttttttt. I love heat.
I had a black cat that loved heat too. She'd lay in the sun and her fur would get so hot I'd get worried about her, but she preferred it that way.
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Old 06-29-19, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
What about 35° drizzle with leaves? I'd take 108° over that.
I'd go with 35 and wet. Now pull that high number down to 95, if humidity is below 70%, then I'll go with heat.
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Old 06-29-19, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by downtube42
I'd go with 35 and wet. Now pull that high number down to 95, if humidity is below 70%, then I'll go with heat.
Definitely low humidity, as the monsoons haven't hit yet.

Readings as of 11:30

104°SUNNY
feels like 104°
H 109° / L 82°
UV Index 10 of 10
WindSW 6 mph

Humidity12%

Dew Point40°

Pressure29.83 in

Visibility10.0 mi
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Old 06-29-19, 01:17 PM
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We don't seem to have much drizzle here on the Gulf Coast. It's either thunderstorms or mist/sprinkles.

I'd rather ride in the cool mist than the hot humid summer. Either way I get water or sweat on my glasses or in my eyes. Salty sweat in the eyes is harder to see through than mist on my glasses, IMO.

Plus, my shirt and pants get just as wet in the summer (95F+ 90% humidity) from sweat as they would if riding through cool sprinkle weather (40F to 50F here). But I don't smell bad after a cool weather ride.
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Old 06-29-19, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I think more people die from the heat than the cold. I could be wrong though.
Of course that's true, but death isn't my only concern. For a while, I had a 13-mile one-way commute. Winter winds are brutal to my hands and feet, and by the time I reached my destination, I was in pain. When my commute got shortened to 6.5 miles, it was much easier because the temperature didn't have time to cause pain. Comfort and convenience are my concerns, and cold weather presents challenges. They're not insurmountable, but they take money, time, and energy.
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Originally Posted by noglider
Of course that's true, but death isn't my only concern. For a while, I had a 13-mile one-way commute. Winter winds are brutal to my hands and feet, and by the time I reached my destination, I was in pain. When my commute got shortened to 6.5 miles, it was much easier because the temperature didn't have time to cause pain. Comfort and convenience are my concerns, and cold weather presents challenges. They're not insurmountable, but they take money, time, and energy.
In Wyoming I did long snow rides in insulated waterproof work boots https://www.wolverine.com/US/en/i-90-durashocks-waterproof-insulated-8-inch-work-boot/18141M.html?dwvar_18141M_color=W03238#cgid=technology-thinsulate&start=1

Good down to 10 below with wool hiking socks. Feet started feeling it after an hour in 25 below, perhaps two pair wool socks would've worked for that temp.

My commute there was only 4 miles but sometimes took me nearly an hour, like on this night, lotta drifting snow on MUP and insane headwind.

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That's what I think would be easier than the conditions we have here, even though they're warmer here. It's hard to justify a $150 pair of boots if it's only going to help three or four days a year. I'll take alternate modes. In the suburbs, people drive their cars. Here in the city, we ride the subway. I did buy a ski helmet for $100, and it makes a huge difference, but I barely ever use it. Slippery surfaces plus cold, sideways rain plus brutal, heavy, uncaring traffic make for a challenge that I just don't want to face frequently.
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Originally Posted by noglider
That's what I think would be easier than the conditions we have here, even though they're warmer here. It's hard to justify a $150 pair of boots if it's only going to help three or four days a year. I'll take alternate modes. In the suburbs, people drive their cars. Here in the city, we ride the subway. I did buy a ski helmet for $100, and it makes a huge difference, but I barely ever use it. Slippery surfaces plus cold, sideways rain plus brutal, heavy, uncaring traffic make for a challenge that I just don't want to face frequently.
I got mine on sale for $100 and have had them for nearly 10 years now. I wear them more off the bike than on. They are perfect for stomping through slush puddles on the way to the subway too

I put SnoSeal on em to keep them nice.
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Old 06-29-19, 06:01 PM
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Drizzle means it's not cold, just saying.

But for commuting, I prefer cooler weather. Fortunately in Madison we get very few days when I can't compensate for the heat by starting a bit earlier and riding really slow.
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Old 06-30-19, 08:31 PM
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I love cold weather riding. Although here in Colorado, it's usually dry and cold. But hell, with enough layers of wool and some water repelling layers, I would take the cold & drizzly.
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Old 06-30-19, 09:42 PM
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I don't mind riding in the cold. I'm a winter cyclist.

But given the preference, I choose hot and sunny. When it's raining, you're still going to sweat and you end up wet on the inside of your sleeves anyway. And then there's the matter of carrying the rain gear. It's extra weight and bulk that you don't worry about when it's hot and sunny.
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If we're talking commute, then I don't care much either way since my daily commute is just 6 miles one way and takes about half an hour.
Generally I'd prefer heat since cold and drizzle is no less than half of the year around here. Over 32C/90F (which doesn't happen that often) is when I would start wishing for cold and drizzle instead.
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I choose cold and drizzle, as long as 'drizzle' means only light moisture from above, not enough to collect and splash up from below. And 'cold' means, say, 40F+.
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light snow
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T'other one.

When it's 35F and raining, I want it hot.

When it's hot and humid, I want it cold.

Really, I just want it to be 65F and sunny with a 45F dewpoint all the time. Is that too much to ask?
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Be Here Now ... It's raining* and 60f.

*Misty marine coastal drizzle.









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