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Old 05-31-19, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OBoile
I'd guess that the opportunists are the majority. But having said that, knowing your location and crowd makes a big difference. "Regulars" are very unlikely to be patrolling around a small town, or even low traffic places in the suburbs, looking for bikes to steal, so a low security lock would be fine there. Similarly, if you're leaving your bike locked next to a bunch of unlocked bikes, just about any thief is going to go for the low hanging fruit.
This. "Casual Bike Thieves" (assuming such a specific class of people exists) aren't patrolling bike racks at small suburban grocery stores ... they are in cities looking for easy pickings and quick turnovers, probably to support drug habits. They might not know Trek from Walmart, but they know what locks they can break or cut to get their $20 or $50 for "bike, generic." They stay close to their fences and drug dealers---so know your neighborhoods.

Serious thieves patrol cities and college campuses in vans full of tools and steal many high-end bikes a night---risk versus reward.

In most areas, Any lock is enough ... so why spend more than $20? In urban areas, if your lock is better than a gym locker combination lock and your chain is hardened, you are probably fine, unless your bike is worth a lot---in which case six of the best locks in the world aren't enough.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Less of a fashion statement, but probably just as good security at 100 grams for $17:

https://www.amazon.com/Allnice-Porta...f_=gep_p2_dp_8
Exactlly.. bought something similar a couple years ago for $15

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Originally Posted by fietsbob
buy more Meth , or an expensive Power Tool to steal bikes ... usually it's not buying a tool that is chosen.
Junkies don't buy tools, they steal them. Or buy them for pennies on the dollar from other junkies who stole them.
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Old 06-02-19, 09:42 AM
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Small, Port , town hard to walk out of a store with an angle grinder under your coat in any shops , around here..
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Left my bike unlocked both nights while camping this weekend. No one stole it. What does that say about my bike?
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Old 06-02-19, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Left my bike unlocked both nights while camping this weekend. No one stole it. What does that say about my bike?
Bears don't want it?
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Bears don't want it?
Rarely is a bear spotted that deep in S. Jersey.
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If a bike isn't stolen in the forest, and nobody's there to see it, can a police report be filed?
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same here… bought it in the early days. Thought it was safer than most lightweight locks. Would I still buy one... no. Too expensive especially with the exchange rate. It is light and easy to carry. I only use it when having to "piss" stop or coffee on public bike paths. We always have a U lock for trips and lock both bikes on the car rack.
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Originally Posted by rchenail
I only use it when having to "piss" stop or coffee on public bike paths.
Please make use of the facilities.

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A passing thought on the lightweight/ low security lock strategy:

A lock is only one part of your security strategy. Essentially, your lock relates to security in the same way to your helmet relates to bike safety. There is no question a helmet will reduce your chance of a head injury in an accident, but we place a greater emphasis on avoiding accidents in the first place. We also recognize that in some situations, the presence or absence of a helmet is largely irrelevant to your ability to survive unscathed.

Similarly, your choice of bike, the places you park your bike, the amount of attention you pay to your bike, and general situational awareness can all have a greater impact on whether your bike gets stolen than your choice of a lock. Choosing (as I do) to opt for a lightweight, low security lock means I have to be more concerned about those factors than I would if I was carrying a couple of U locks and a log chain. It's a reasonable tradeoff, and one each of us can make for ourselves.

The notion that any lock is a silver bullet that will render a bike invulnerable to theft is a naive assumption.
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