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Anyone on a 29+ gravel bike?

Old 02-23-19, 01:53 PM
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Anyone on a 29+ gravel bike?

There are a number of bike makers out there selling these. Gravel bikes built around 29x3" tires. I have a (possibly) irrational attraction to these. The look with the huge, large diameter tire is so great, but with my riding primarily on dirt/gravel roads, it's probably more rubber than I need to lug around so haven't made the plunge yet.

Just wondering if anyone out there has one of these 29+ gravel/adventure bikes and what your experience has been like?

Some links, because these bikes just look badass....
https://www.framedbikes.com/collecti...adventure-bike
https://www.wilier.com/en/products/u...el/jaroon-plus
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I have a 27.5+ (2.8") one.

Mine didn't come with a pogo-stick fork. Given that Lauf fork alone costs about $1K, that is quite a deal.
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Both of those look like so much fun, especially that Framed Marquette.

Anyone knows how much the Marguette weighs?


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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Both of those look like so much fun, especially that Framed Marquette.

Anyone knows how much the Marguette weighs?


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~28 lbs with the Lauf Fork, rival 1x, and aluminium rims

Was tempted
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Originally Posted by wgscott
I have a 27.5+ (2.8") one.

Mine didn't come with a pogo-stick fork. Given that Lauf fork alone costs about $1K, that is quite a deal.
What model are you riding? I agree, that bike price is far less than anyone could build something comparable.

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~28 lbs with the Lauf Fork, rival 1x, and aluminium rims

Was tempted
Not really a bad weight given the spec.
What made you decide against it in the end?
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Thanks for the links.

I'm hoping to build one soon, a bit different than those two, if I can ever get everything started.
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Not 29+
I am riding 29r with 2.25 inch tires on dirt roads, fire roads.... our gravel roads in So CA.
It's a XC bike.
Now we have skipped from the "should I go 40mm tires or stay with 38mm" to riding gravel on 3.0 inch plus tires.
The XC bikes are on their way out .. they are not in vogue at the moment, and God help you if you are running 2 or 3 plates with a front DR.

I am coining a new bike name. Not XC anymore, but "Overland" bike.... has 29r tires that will run good on pavement or dirt roads, mild single track.....
what a mountain bike was used for 30 years ago.

PS
That FRAMED bike looks hot, comes with 2.2 inch tires and boost (new terminology) hubs.
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Originally Posted by Caliper
What model are you riding?
Advocate Seldom Seen.

I bought the (steel) frame and fork on clearance for $350 and built it up from there. It was the drop-bar version.

It can also take a suspension fork, but I haven't sprung for one yet.

https://advocatecycles.com/product/seldom-seen/



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Originally Posted by wgscott
Advocate Seldom Seen.

I bought the (steel) frame and fork on clearance for $350 and built it up from there. It was the drop-bar version.

It can also take a suspension fork, but I haven't sprung for one yet.

Seldom Seen
OMG, advocatescycles is already using my new term "Overland" to describe their bike!
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Several of my tent-circle use drop-bar 29er rigs....which is frequently needed as even 45mm tires is seldom "enough" to keep control and momentum on pea gravel, even when the ground is dry.

Wicked fun. Catch being, unless you're riding pea gravel surfaces or mud--it ends up being overkill...and you're not going to be moving very fast or setting speed records.
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Originally Posted by trailangel
OMG, advocatescycles is already using my new term "Overland" to describe their bike!
Seeing as they are past-tense, I guess the term isn't so new.

The Future of Advocate Cycles
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Wicked fun. Catch being, unless you're riding pea gravel surfaces or mud--it ends up being overkill...and you're not going to be moving very fast or setting speed records.
This pretty much sums it up. I have a drop bar 29er (well, fatbike frame) that was sold as a rigid flatbar 29+ from bikesdirect. I changed to 29x2.2 tires pretty quickly (dropbars came later) but I did one or two rides on the 3” tires. I really enjoyed the short time I ran 3” tires, but they were cheap (wire bead), were very difficult to remove from the tubeless compatible rims, and couldn’t be run tubeless. Plus, the rims were only 25mm so I think a 3” tire is pushing the limit for sure.

That being said, I felt like when the tires spun up the bike could maintain speed pretty well, although it might be more noticeable if a lot of hills are involved. The best part is that not only can they go over about everything, the they can roll fast over a lot of stuff you wouldn’t normally. For example, when the county comes and dumps a thick layer of gravel for the next X miles, you can just barrel down that like it’s nothing.

I have thought a few times about going back to that 3” width, but no one stocks a wheelset with 29+ size rim on 135/170 qr hubs, and building up a set would be more than I’d want to spend for this low-end frame.

I think a bike like the Jaroon+ or a Fargo with 3” tires would be great fun. My dream bike would be something like a Ti 29+ Fargo, but with an inch or so less stack height in my size.
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Originally Posted by trailangel
OMG, advocatescycles is already using my new term "Overland" to describe their bike!
"Overlanding" is a thing in the four wheel drive community.

https://expeditionportal.com/

I've seen some bikepacking articles at that site. Most of the guys are into anything that gets people out to explore the land and would happily put a mountain or bikepacking bike on their gear list.


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I also have an Advocate Seldom Seen Drop Bar MTB. I''m running 27.5x3.0 WTB Ranger tires on mine and I use it mostly for buff singletrack riding and rougher dirt trails like Forest Service roads where more tire is needed than the 700c X 42 tires on my gravel bike. I want to try it out on some of the very sandy roads my friends in South Georgia and Florida ride when doing their bikepacking expeditions.

This bike is great fun on smooth and flowy singletrack trails, but the very few times I've taken the big tires out on mixed surface and more typical dirt/gravel roads, it felt incredibly slow and cumbersome. Gravel means different things to different people in different areas, but for what it means to me and around here, somewhere around 29 x 2.1" is the limit of what I'd consider fun. I'd sure like to try 29+ on the MTB trails, though.

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Originally Posted by TimothyH
"Overlanding" is a thing in the four wheel drive community.
Might have something to do with the Willys-Overland company, best known for being the makers of the Jeep...

The term definitely has a good appeal to it though.
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Just saw this posted over at the Riding Gravel forum.
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Originally Posted by trailangel
Not 29+
I am riding 29r with 2.25 inch tires on dirt roads, fire roads.... our gravel roads in So CA.
It's a XC bike.
Now we have skipped from the "should I go 40mm tires or stay with 38mm" to riding gravel on 3.0 inch plus tires.
The XC bikes are on their way out .. they are not in vogue at the moment, and God help you if you are running 2 or 3 plates with a front DR.

I am coining a new bike name. Not XC anymore, but "Overland" bike.... has 29r tires that will run good on pavement or dirt roads, mild single track.....
what a mountain bike was used for 30 years ago.

PS
That FRAMED bike looks hot, comes with 2.2 inch tires and boost (new terminology) hubs.
My XC is a 2x. Still perfect for what I do which is pretty much when conditions are not ideal for my gravel bike. It's a Deore XT 8000 crank and RD so going 1x is just remove the inner ring and get a wider cassette. Haven't had the desire yet. I'll evalute again as things break and wear out.
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