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Old 06-21-20, 08:11 PM
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Treating cancer with high-doses of vitamin C is a zombie idea that began with Linus Pauling, and has failed to die ever since. But has new research vindicated this idea? No. No in any meaningful way. This work is the very definition of a long run for a short slide.
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Old 06-21-20, 08:51 PM
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...I wonder if people used to say that to Evelyn Wood a lot ?
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Let me go on the record and state that I don't believe that Vitamin C is a miracle cure that's going to defeat COVID-19 singlehandedly or cure any other disease singlehandedly.
This isn't an attempt to back down on my view that Vitamin C is a VERY useful compound in the support of excellent human health either.
Life is a little more complicated than that.
A well trained immune system that's strong yet doesn't overreact either is key here.
The so called "asymptomatic super spreaders" would be the first people that I would study in order to get a handle on COVID-19. I hope that many institutions ARE studying these people to find a cure rather than just stigmatising them.
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Old 06-21-20, 11:27 PM
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Old 06-22-20, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
...I wonder if people used to say that to Evelyn Wood a lot ?


I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people don't read linked articles. Good to give a brief summary.
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Old 06-23-20, 08:18 AM
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Comparing dexamethasone to non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, much less micronutrients with anti-inflammatory properties, is like comparing a tactical nuke to an M80.

Yes, dexamethasone has often been used as a "heroic," last ditch method in critically ill patients, e.g., with sepsis, experiencing overwhelming immune responses and multi-organ failure, and it has a very mixed reputation. The obvious and real danger is that suppressing the immune system removes the last remaining check on the infection, resulting in death.

It is wonderful to hear that this widely used and inexpensive drug is helpful in critically ill patients with COVID-19. This could turn out to be one of the few well-defined situations where it is helpful in critical illness. Or not. The critical care community has been disappointed many times before.
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Old 06-23-20, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by skookum View Post


I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people don't read linked articles. Good to give a brief summary.
She introduced (or at least popularized) speed-reading for the masses.
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Old 06-23-20, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
She introduced (or at least popularized) speed-reading for the masses.
I am, unfortunately, old enough to remember the ads for Evelyn Wood, back in the old days. Now, in the internet age, nobody reads anything right through anyway. Skim the headline and then dash off a snarky response.
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