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Old 07-21-20, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by daka
I love the Chartreuse color used on the earlier Internationals. Both of mine are Champagne, which is a pleasant enough color but is a bit subdued to my taste.
I like the way you've coordinated the black tape and fenders. Works well with the Champagne.
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Huh. I have what I thought was a ‘71 International that’s a visual match for your competition, importantly including the fork crown. Also the stays and the Anniversary badge. Well, except for the gugificazione on mine. I get ‘71 (maybe late ‘70) from my F507 S/N and here: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/dating.html More Sheldon on ‘70-71 Internationals, different fork crown (not that means much with Raleigh). https://www.sheldonbrown.com/retrora...rnational.html

Curious on what your S/N is and how you determined it’s a Competition. Original paint and decals? Mine of course is not...
Yeah, mine still has most of it's original paint and while the decals are fading, you can still see them in good light.



My serial number is B7430, which the Sheldon Brown decoder ring says means it was built in 1967, but since all the information I've found says the Competition wasn't introduced until 1969, I'm just kind of assuming they built it and then it sat around for a while before it got paint and decals. Or maybe it's a really rare '67 Competition. Who knows?

I believe @gugie has pictures of yours with the original paint and decals on his Flickr page. This is it, right? https://www.flickr.com/photos/gugie/...h/27616950460/
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Old 07-21-20, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by daka
I love the Chartreuse color used on the earlier Internationals. Both of mine are Champagne, which is a pleasant enough color but is a bit subdued to my taste.
My biggest complaint about the champagne is that the chrome lugs kind of get lost. I would have mine painted or powder-coated but the original paint and decals are still too clean to allow me to do it with a clear conscience.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
I believe @gugie has pictures of yours with the original paint and decals on his Flickr page. This is it, right? https://www.flickr.com/photos/gugie/...h/27616950460/
Yeah, that’s it. I forgot about the pics with original paint and decals. The similarities are interesting.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
My biggest complaint about the champagne is that the chrome lugs kind of get lost. I would have mine painted or powder-coated but the original paint and decals are still too clean to allow me to do it with a clear conscience.
Ive never had a Champagne coloured bike but like the almost brown tint to it. I have plans to use brown accents for bars, cable and saddle. See how that turns out.
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Originally Posted by natterberry
Except for wheelset, tires, tubes, handlebars, handlebar tape, stem, brake levers, saddle, seatpost...

To say components have no influence on the ride of a bike is a silly blanket statement.
don't be silly...

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Old 07-21-20, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cudak888
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I find the clever sense of humor in this group to be delightful!
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Originally Posted by daka
I think the giveaway is hanging on the rear dropout in the photo at the link below. The Weigle 650B Intercourse is indeed based on a Raleigh Competition. No "Inter", no "Course", a complete fraud


https://www.flickr.com/photos/citize...ery/4682906660
Whatever Peter calls it, I got to ride next to Weigle on that bike in North Carolina a few years back. It seemed to provide him with both pleasure and endurance. I was on a hot-rodded International, which somehow next to the Intercourse, seemed homely.
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Old 07-22-20, 05:33 PM
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Pleasure, stamina...... should you expect less from an Intercourse?
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... cockinal?
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Originally Posted by Sir_Name
Fenders: Lefol Le Martele, I get around 60+ mm width on the calipers
I should have known. The only other fenders I've seen with coverage close to those beautiful Lefols are Grand Bois.

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Assembly has begun

After waiting a few days for a Campagnolo down tube cable guide (Super Courses have braze-ons to serve that function) to arrive, I've started on assembly. Nervar Star bottom bracket is in. Huret Duopar with Huret Success downtube levers are also installed. I also had to fix the rear dropout adjusters which required a trip to the hardware store to get new M3 screws that aren't bent. I've stopped because I can't decide on which front changer to use. Choices are (from my parts box):
Huret 700
Huret Jubilee
Sachs/Huret with the "deep dish" inner plate
Suntour Cyclone
Suntour LePree (looks just like the Cyclone, as far as I can tell)
Suntour XC reverse action- high normal

I think I have a preference to keep it "all french" to stay close to the "InterCourse/SuperNational" francenbike theme but I don't have a correct Huret Challenger front mech. (which is really just a 700 with a fancy cage) on hand.

What would you folks choose.....
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I’d select the Jubilee. The Competition from the same era used it. To me it’s the Raleighest choice on the board....plus I just like it!
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Originally Posted by cudak888
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Assembly continues....slowly

I'm moving forward with this build. Forgive the truly crappy picture (courtesy of my cheap Nokia phone)


Not wanting to end up with two essentially identical bikes, I moved the fenders and the pedals with reflectors over to this bike from the "nice" one which I am bringing back closer to its original specs. The Campagnolo drivetrain is back on, the Multito and the Carradice are off but I'm thinking it really needs white bar tape in this configuration......



I still have to play musical chairs with the wheels and tires I have on-hand but I know what I am going to do there. Where I am stalled is whether to install all-rounder bars or drops. I have both, but the drops are only 39cm wide which I find to be a little narrow. I do have some nice Weinmann levers for those with black hoods which would look good. On the other hand, using the all-rounder bars would help differentiate this International from the other one. The seat will be a B17, which is fine with either type of bar IME. Suggestions?
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If anyone is interested, here is where I ended up....


I know it doesn't look too far from where I started but, here is the original bike now:


It's hard to see in the pictures, especially on the drive-side, but the "spare" frame has a couple of small dents and some pretty serious acne on the chrome plating of the fork blades, but just on the left side. Since it is just one side, that may go all the way back to a bit of contamination getting on there during the plating process. I'm a lot more comfortable with the idea of locking this bike up in front of the hardware store than my better one. What remains to be seen is whether I use the "nice" one much now that it has a 47 inch low gear and can't even carry a sandwich. If I don't use and enjoy it, I'll reconfigure again and get rid of one of them.
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