I-Like-To-Bike

Who do you say this to? Does this argument persuade anybody to learn anything or change their mind on the subject of bicycling?

closetbiker

it works in that I’m taking the piss out of them. They know that they’re better off following a bicycle than a slow moving vehicle

jon c. 

Human society could not function without such collective decisions.

fietsbob

Paying a little tax on every gallon of gas means it's their road, not owned by everyone, because that's Socialism..

genec

Only the Federal highways... local roads that cyclists use come out of local taxes... generally developer fees and property taxes... and based on that and the wear and tear of the roads that bikes cause, cyclists are paying well more than there share.

Pop N Wood

See the rest of the post that you cut out of the quote.

I-Like-To-Bike

Is that what "they" told you after you have told them how good you are to "them" for riding your bike instead of slow rolling your motor vehicle in front of them? Or are you just fabricating thoughts and viewpoints for "them" in the same sense that you have determined what is good for "them"?

fietsbob

Mindset of those in the cars found to be appreciably better?

Digger Goreman

Son, quit popping off that ignorant FOX-speak! I just had another B.S. meter over heat and meltdown....

Chistophe516

Nope

holytrousers

Our situation is similar to that of anyone who suffered persecution and exclusion because he wanted to save humanity or believed in democracy, social justice or equal rights. Faith is the answer.

I-Like-To-Bike

Iride01 

Gasoline tax alone doesn't pay for interstates and U.S. highways. Some of my other tax dollars go into that too.

What are we to think of electric cars that use roads they aren't paying gasoline tax on?

And anything else is socialism... really?

fietsbob

war is a popular social spending.. inter state highway system had a defense, troop movement, justification..

50PlusCycling

No, they will never learn. Will you ever learn that people do not learn? If people were capable of learning, or made more effort to do so, we would not need so many police or jails, we would have less poverty, drug and alcohol abuse, less violence, fewer divorces, fewer bankruptcies, fewer broken homes, less prostitution, less need for lawyers, priests, and politicians, and there would be less pollution, and more peace.

"You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think."

livedarklions

I don't know about you, but I literally have never ridden my bike on an interstate.

And it's pretty clear you don't actually know what socialism is. In any event, according to your logic, if I pay gasoline tax, I own the road. Since I do drive and buy gasoline, I hereby declare all roads open to bicyclists. Enjoy riding on the freeways. You're welcome.

fietsbob

Aren't we full of assumptions and misreading ... were you even alive during the Eisenhower presidency?

billew

Satire is lost on people with an average or lower IQ. The answer to the OP is no, because humans are stupid and greedy/selfish and will never change.

Leisesturm

Geez Louise. Can you just once go against type and post about something other than your (unreasonable) hatred of bike lanes? Sadly, in 2020 the technology does not yet exist to suspend bike lanes above the main roadway so bikes can travel unimpacted by motor traffic. Nor does there (yet) exist the political will to completely turn roads over to bicycle traffic. For my lifetime, and yours, bike lanes will be 'as good as it gets'. Get over it. Motorists will NEVER allow bicycles to co-exist in vehicle lanes and in effect lower the default speed limit to 12mph, even (formerly) 45mph arterials. Millions of cyclists have no issue with bike lanes as they are. With all their faults they are still better than no bike lane at all.

livedarklions

Nope, missed it by a month and a half. I daresay, even so, I can't understand for the life of me why you think the history of the interstate highway system has anything to do with drivers having to respect the rights of cyclists on surface roads. There's very few states where bicycles can even ride on the interstates.

Trakhak

genec

Is this the part where some curmudgeon comes on and says: I would qualify your summary by preceding it with: [Some ardent ideologues believe and spout some or all of the following grossly exaggerated generalizations and stereotypes:] "If people were capable of learning, or made more effort to do so, we would not need so many police or jails, we would have less poverty, drug and alcohol abuse, less violence, fewer divorces, fewer bankruptcies, fewer broken homes, less prostitution, less need for lawyers, priests, and politicians, and there would be less pollution, and more peace."



BTW, I really do agree with you... too bad society in general doesn't make a bit of effort, eh? Wasn't it John Lennon that said "all we need is love...." Who was it that said "give peace a chance?"

And of course H. G. Wells said: "Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race."

We really do need more adults on bicycles. Will they ever learn?

genec

I have... in a number of places.

I used to commute on Interstate 5 between two otherwise poorly connected areas. There were even signs that permitted this for cyclists. The area has been changed now, and there is actually a bike path where previously one rode on the wide shoulder of the interstate.

I also did a long tour back in the '80s, and in some places, again, the Interstate was the only connecting road. Out west of the Pecos river (or Rio Grande, or thereabouts) there are long stretches where the only road may be the Interstate.

Digger Goreman

Today, if local ATL could be called "indicative" of humanity, not a snowball's chance in Hades kitchen.... 5 near misses in 15 miles. Felt darned near hunted!

livedarklions

I acknowledged there are a few states where this is legal. Post 45. Point I was making was that the VAST majority of cyclists do all of their riding on roads that have absolutely nothing to do with the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act. And yes, that's a rather obvious point, but a certain poster seems intent on bringing up that act for some reason. Maybe it's because Eisenhower is the last president he remembers?