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I don't do drugs or drink much but i guess if i were to compare bike collecting to anything then i would say it's pretty much like a drug....
It's too addicting, and you gotta always have the good sh*t.... haha
i think we might need a C&V intervention club or a C&V anonymous.
It's too addicting, and you gotta always have the good sh*t.... haha
i think we might need a C&V intervention club or a C&V anonymous.
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I guess this is as good of a place as any to post my mini-rant about aesthetics versus function. The biggest thing that drove me away from this site for a while was this my seemingly endless and pricy pursuit of a quasi-period correct bike both cosmetically and mechanically. Some of the bikes I’ve seen on these threads really blow my mind in their beauty and mechanical precision. However, I really appreciate, these days, a bike that has been thoughtfully pieced together with economy in mind. So what if you used a Tange Levin headset over the Campy Record that would have matched the build, for example.
I realize that this may be hierarchy to some, and I’m not trying to offend anyone, but paying $60 for a saddle just because it is the last piece of the puzzle to complete the perfect picture of a bike versus whether or not that same saddle fits your rear end, is the kind of thing that I’m referring to. I’m not saying that that is what the PM is doing; it is something that I have been guilty of in the past and have decided that if the bike works well as a bike, that is good enough for me to appreciate.
I apologize in advance for this.
I realize that this may be hierarchy to some, and I’m not trying to offend anyone, but paying $60 for a saddle just because it is the last piece of the puzzle to complete the perfect picture of a bike versus whether or not that same saddle fits your rear end, is the kind of thing that I’m referring to. I’m not saying that that is what the PM is doing; it is something that I have been guilty of in the past and have decided that if the bike works well as a bike, that is good enough for me to appreciate.
I apologize in advance for this.
I think there's a quote somewhere about "vanity is thy name..." or something.
Note the Nitto stem on the Trofeo. I've actually gotten feedback about that.
The owner's last name is D'Italia, and she wanted all Italian.
So far, she thinks Nitto is Italian. I'm leaving it at that.
I suppose I could remedy that last bit, but I won't. She loves the bike.
The idea of re-doing the entire bar, wrap, etc, or at least half of it, to change to an Italian stem?
Well, not part of my volunteer labor on the bike. I mean, she's hot, but not that hot.
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I can appreciate this sentiment. I'm not the sort of person who can really afford to spend a lot of money on high-end NOS bikes and parts, as much as I would like to (and despite the fact that I occasionally do it anyway). That being said, I want to say that I also appreciate other bike nuts who can do so, and who then post pictures on here.
Back when I was a poor starving teacher or grad student my bikes were whatever I could afford, subject to what worked. Same with the upgrades. Today I choose the saddle based on what has proven comfortable for long rides. And I sure wouldn't choose white, because I just know it would soon show dirt. But otherwise, aesthetics matter if they don't get in the way.
Which brings me to the point here, and also back the OP's point. The toy build I'm working on is a Bianchi Brava, '89, black with celeste lettering. The only aesthetic items I can play with easily are cabling and bar tape. The saddle will be black, rules or no. The rims will be dark Mavic MA40, the crank probably the VO compact double. Celeste cabling and bar tape doesn't appeal even if it would match the frame's decals. I'm considering perhaps maybe possibly cranberry if I can find anything like that. But what one pictures in one's mind can often end up very different in the flesh. So yea or nay?
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Back when I was a poor starving teacher or grad student my bikes were whatever I could afford, subject to what worked. Same with the upgrades. Today I choose the saddle based on what has proven comfortable for long rides. And I sure wouldn't choose white, because I just know it would soon show dirt. But otherwise, aesthetics matter if they don't get in the way.
Which brings me to the point here, and also back the OP's point. The toy build I'm working on is a Bianchi Brava, '89, black with celeste lettering. The only aesthetic items I can play with easily are cabling and bar tape. The saddle will be black, rules or no. The rims will be dark Mavic MA40, the crank probably the VO compact double. Celeste cabling and bar tape doesn't appeal even if it would match the frame's decals. I'm considering perhaps maybe possibly cranberry if I can find anything like that. But what one pictures in one's mind can often end up very different in the flesh. So yea or nay?
Back when I was a poor starving teacher or grad student my bikes were whatever I could afford, subject to what worked. Same with the upgrades. Today I choose the saddle based on what has proven comfortable for long rides. And I sure wouldn't choose white, because I just know it would soon show dirt. But otherwise, aesthetics matter if they don't get in the way.
Which brings me to the point here, and also back the OP's point. The toy build I'm working on is a Bianchi Brava, '89, black with celeste lettering. The only aesthetic items I can play with easily are cabling and bar tape. The saddle will be black, rules or no. The rims will be dark Mavic MA40, the crank probably the VO compact double. Celeste cabling and bar tape doesn't appeal even if it would match the frame's decals. I'm considering perhaps maybe possibly cranberry if I can find anything like that. But what one pictures in one's mind can often end up very different in the flesh. So yea or nay?
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I realize that this may be hierarchy to some, and I’m not trying to offend anyone, but paying $60 for a saddle just because it is the last piece of the puzzle to complete the perfect picture of a bike versus whether or not that same saddle fits your rear end, is the kind of thing that I’m referring to. I’m not saying that that is what the PM is doing; it is something that I have been guilty of in the past and have decided that if the bike works well as a bike, that is good enough for me to appreciate.
The best looking components for a build are sometimes the parts you like to use in the first place.
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ANY bike can have a black saddle. But how many bikes can rock a celeste saddle and get away with it?
Do you want to fall in with the lemmings or stand out and be cool?
If I had a celeste Bianchi I'd be wearing celeste colored sunscreen when I rode it.
Do you want to fall in with the lemmings or stand out and be cool?
If I had a celeste Bianchi I'd be wearing celeste colored sunscreen when I rode it.
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Well, I don’t want to be like that Preacher who, after having been caught with his pants down, preached: “Do as I say, not as I do”. Bad metaphor I know, but I’m as guilty as anyone. I remember spending some ridiculous amount on a Campy seat binder bolt because I was obsessing over making that particular bike as perfect to original as possible. That was over a year ago when I sold all my expensive bikes, just barely breaking even, and started rebuilding kid’s bikes and junk yard stuff and reselling them for cost. Yes, of course, I’m more righteous then ya’lls , but that aside, in this particular case, I felt like the PM was on the same slippery slope as I’d been down, and I happen to think that black saddle, cable housing, and bar tape looks tough on a celeste.
BTW, don't stop your obsessive search for perfection C&V. Me likes da bling.
BTW, don't stop your obsessive search for perfection C&V. Me likes da bling.
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Well, I might as well post, for the last time, the bike that started pulling me willingly down the Italian rabbit hole, Lord I loved that bike:
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To some it may be too much Celeste but I like it and thats all that matters.Do what makes YOU enjoy your bike.Always remember opinions are like a..holes:everyone has one.