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Why are roadies going 1x11 or 1x12?

Old 07-24-19, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
While we are talking bikes, here is my Ti Habanero. I know the flipped up stem is not pro, but the builder said to make it with a longer head tube would limit fork choices. Life is full of compromises.

Now that I have a Ti bottle cage on my Lynskey, I am only calling Ti bikes with matching cages hot. Sorry.

Do you have issues with wind shear on that frame?
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Old 07-24-19, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha View Post
Now that I have a Ti bottle cage on my Lynskey, I am only calling Ti bikes with matching cages hot. Sorry.

Do you have issues with wind shear on that frame?
Those are King Cage SS cages. I am too cheap to get Ti ones.

No wind shear.

Note, no 1X nor disc brakes. 10s in back.

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Habaneros are over. The Ti Carolina Reaper is where it's at.
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Old 07-24-19, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
Those are King Cage SS cages.
That's what I have, so my bike (that I don't really have) is hot.
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Old 07-24-19, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ksryder View Post
Habaneros are over. The Ti Carolina Reaper is where it's at.
There's such a thing as too hot.
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Originally Posted by MyTi View Post
Lol why do you guys question that I own a madone. It was a close out demo model hence the $1900 price tag. Reading comprehension will save us time folks get a clue.

I am already thinking about returning it though and getting a Lynskey instead. I talked to the LBS and he said it would be ok but I have to do it by next week.

The madone is terrible compared to the vortex.
Why is the Madone terrible?
Ride quality is great. I have the previous model (rim brake) and it rides very well.
All the reviews say the disc model is even better. They will take a 30mm tyre too.
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Old 07-24-19, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ksryder View Post
Habaneros are over. The Ti Carolina Reaper is where it's at.
Is that you, Smokin' Ed? How's things at PuckerButt?
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Old 07-24-19, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean V View Post
Why is the Madone terrible?
Ride quality is great. I have the previous model (rim brake) and it rides very well.
All the reviews say the disc model is even better. They will take a 30mm tyre too.
This is the great shame of the thread - trolling is all well and good, but he's besmirching a great bike that he's never even thrown a leg over.
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I don't want 1x on my gravel bike, sure as hell don't want it on my road bike, but as always, do whatever works for you.

FWIW, the front shifting on both of my bikes, r7000 and r8000 is smooooooooth.
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Old 07-24-19, 03:05 PM
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I hope someone is getting a great deal on these "bikes" OP is going through. Virtual Vortex, mythical Madone and soon to come, illusory Lynskey.
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Originally Posted by jfranci3 View Post
I won't miss the FD, which drops 5% of the shifts when setup right.
Say what? Is this SRAM or something?
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To prevent "cross chaining" your 1x, just bolt a pair of 42 tooth chainrings (1 inner, 1 outter) to the crankset. That way you can use the inner 42 for all the big cogs, then the outter 42 for all the small cogs. So it's just like a 1x but no cross chaining or all the pesky half steps or wider range of a properly done double.

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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Say what? Is this SRAM or something?
Yeah, braze on SRAM YAW on a Praxis ring/Rotor P2M crankset on a disc frameset.. Had less luck with FSA (who does?) and Sram rings. Anyway, 1x shifts much smoother with the shorter chain and more rigid RD. The braze on tends it wander a bit rotationally, especially with the compact spacer. The FD will throw the chain overboard or not shift depending on where the rear cog is.
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Old 07-24-19, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jfranci3 View Post
Yeah, braze on SRAM YAW on a Praxis ring/Rotor P2M crankset on a disc frameset.. Had less luck with FSA (who does?) and Sram rings. Anyway, 1x shifts much smoother with the shorter chain and more rigid RD. The braze on tends it wander a bit rotationally, especially with the compact spacer. The FD will throw the chain overboard or not shift depending on where the rear cog is.
Oof - what a mess. And here I thought that their more recent FDs were supposed to be pretty good. Okay, maybe not "pretty good," but at least competent.
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Old 07-24-19, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
I know the flipped up stem is not pro
You can console yourself with the fact that it's the stiffest and lightest way to get from steerer to bars.

That should probably count for something, compared to wank factor...
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"MyTi" is the King! Hurry up and comment and let's get this one to 200 posts before it gets shut down.

On a serious note "BillyD" at what point do you decide that a thread is just a useless Troll Fest which can be quickly identified by the creator of the thread.

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It doesn't work that way here
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Originally Posted by velopig View Post
"MyTi" is the King! Hurry up and comment and let's get this one to 200 posts before it gets shut down.

On a serious note "BillyD" at what point do you decide that a thread is just a useless Troll Fest which can be quickly identified by the creator of the thread.
Don't ruin it for @MyTi. He's obviously trolling, and we are playing along.

It's a slow time of the year, and we are all playing nice.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
While we are talking bikes, here is my Ti Habanero. I know the flipped up stem is not pro, but the builder said to make it with a longer head tube would limit fork choices. Life is full of compromises.


Yeah, thats too big as it is for the trash bin (when you upgrade to a Madone), but the tubes should spontaneously crack and then it will fit no problems.
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While we are talking bikes, here is my Ti Habanero. I know the flipped up stem is not pro, but the builder said to make it with a longer head tube would limit fork choices. Life is full of compromises.

Is that the stock 64cm frame, or a custom?
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
Is that the stock 64cm frame, or a custom?
Custom. I believe it’s 64cm (C-T) but TT only 56cm for my disproportionately short torso.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
going back to Ti.
Until I see you posing with your bike I really don't want to hear it. You of all people have no right talk seeing you are the most inexperienced beginner cyclist here.

But I'll make a deal if you share a picture of yourself with you and your bike holding a hand written sign that says seattleforest I will post my 295 pound body on my madone in bike forums...along with a copy of the receipt...and yes, it was a lightly used demo model which people seem to forget which is why I got the discount.

Once I post that I do need fitment help as my knees are hitting my stomach when in the drops. It's very uncomfortable. I am thinking I might need a stem riser in the short term until I lose more weight.
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1x means less parts to wear out.
1x chainrings and chains need to be replaced 2-3x more often. The narrow-wide teeth wear a out quicker amd you cant run the chain to the same elongation before shifting and chain drops become an issue. Just ask the majority if cyclocross racers. Usually a chainring is good for 1 season if raced and chains about the same unless you rotate multiple
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Originally Posted by MyTi View Post
Until I see you posing with your bike I really don't want to hear it. You of all people have no right talk seeing you are the most inexperienced beginner cyclist here.

But I'll make a deal if you share a picture of yourself with you and your bike holding a hand written sign that says seattleforest I will post my 295 pound body on my madone in bike forums...along with a copy of the receipt...and yes, it was a lightly used demo model which people seem to forget which is why I got the discount.

Once I post that I do need fitment help as my knees are hitting my stomach when in the drops. It's very uncomfortable. I am thinking I might need a stem riser in the short term until I lose more weight.
I don't actually have a bike. I just come here to learn motivational things to yell at cyclists from my car.
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Originally Posted by ksryder View Post
Habaneros are over. The Ti Carolina Reaper is where it's at.
No, titanium Carolina Reapers aren't hot at all. (Don't believe me? Touch your tongue to one, then do the same with the real one.)
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