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Good Brakes
I was riding my bike at speed, and found that it has a hard time stopping. I realize that it isn't related to the brake setup just the brake itself. I used to ride mountain bikes, and the brakes were superb. Is there some sort of equivalent for a road bike, with good stopping power, but doesn't require discs? (not even sure if discs are available on road bikes). The brakes are stock. Is it the brake brand/make, or just the nature of road bike brakes?
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Get a quality brake (Campy, Shimano, Cane Creek, some Tektro) with Kool Stop pads.
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If your brakes were set up properly you should be able to launch yourself by over-hammering them.
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The pads may be glazed. Use fine sandpaper to lightly sand the pads. Lightly sand the braking surface on the rim also.
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I got the black compound since I rarely take that bike in wet weather (more like "never" if I can help it since I got another bike for that purpose ). The pads did reasonably well when I had to ride in the rain this week, though.
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I've always been disappointed with my braking as well - Ultegra or Tektro stock calipers and rubber. Am thinking about upgrading and getting some new calipers and maybe some Kool Stops to go with it. I see that Kool Stop makes both wet and dry pads. Do people actually swap these out based on what type of riding they are doing?
I can see that for people who race (and know it's going to be a wet day) but what about your everyday training bike?
Are the 'dry' pads ok in the wet?
I can see that for people who race (and know it's going to be a wet day) but what about your everyday training bike?
Are the 'dry' pads ok in the wet?
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I might just keep my stock brakes (Tektro, I'm sure) for the life of the bike, and simply refill with Kool Stops (or maybe try Swiss Stop next ) as the miles wear on. Yes, the pads make that much of a difference. 35-to-0 mph at the bottom of the hill by the Capitol with no scraping or fading like I experienced with the OEM Tektro pads.
FWIW, I have the black pads, and they seemed OK in the rain as long as I squeegeed the rim with light brake pressure. If the salmon compound is better, then it must be really good.
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I think at this point even basic Tektro calipers work just fine. I can't tell the difference between my Tektros and my Campys when they both had new Kool Stops on them.
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Mavic SSC + Swiss Stop. It's like slamming into a wall
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I just got DA-7700 series with Kool-stops and there wasn't a notable difference from the stock 105s.
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My Tektros sucked even with Koolstop pads, but in retrospect now that I have more experience, I think the braking surface on my crappy Alex AT400 wheels was the real culprit.
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My Centaur calipers, on Campy Vento III rims have tremendous power. And are very, very easy to control. I think caliper brakes get a bad rap because of cheap calipers, and old single pivot calipers. Modern dual pivot quality calipers are well capable of locking a wheel, or launching you over the seat, but are still able to be modulated to keep the bike under control.
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I just replaced my stock front brake pad cartridges with Kool Stop salmon pads (bike is an 07 Allez). There is a moderate improvement for dry braking but a spectacular improvement during wet braking.
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Kool Stop brake pads.
These work for road bikes, too:
https://www.amazon.com/Kool-Stop-Nutt...4461859&sr=1-1
These work for road bikes, too:
https://www.amazon.com/Kool-Stop-Nutt...4461859&sr=1-1
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Another vote for the Kool Stops. I was going down a fast descent the other day, around a blind corner, and a pickup was in my lane, all the way out by the shoulder. I locked both wheels up in a panic stop, but was easily able to get the wheels rolling again without coming off the brakes completely, and was able to get around the truck when he made a move back to his lane. I know the stock shimano pads would have let me lock up the wheels as well, but I'm not at all sure I could have modulated the brakes as well to get the wheels rolling again while still slowing down.
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Going to pick up some Kool Stops to give them a go - sounds like a big difference. I'm rarely riding in the rain, so I guess the std. black will do me fine.
For those who bought the salmon - was that 'just in case' you got caught out in the rain or do you ride in the rain enough you thought it was a wise choice?
Just wondering if it's worth going salmon for the 3 times a year I get caught out. Then again, if you live in WA, OR or BC you guys would be getting much more rain than me.
For those who bought the salmon - was that 'just in case' you got caught out in the rain or do you ride in the rain enough you thought it was a wise choice?
Just wondering if it's worth going salmon for the 3 times a year I get caught out. Then again, if you live in WA, OR or BC you guys would be getting much more rain than me.
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I've always just stuck with stock Shimano pads. They did fine in my rainy crit on Saturday.
I would only recommend Shimano and Campagnolo brakes though. I don't see a reason to bother with anything else -- these work great.
I would only recommend Shimano and Campagnolo brakes though. I don't see a reason to bother with anything else -- these work great.