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Old 12-04-19, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by zacster
Stem came today and I can't immediately use it because the height is shorter and I need more spacers. I was already short one and used a headset bearing race as a spacer, now at least I'll have a proper set. I may also flip it. I'm getting older and riding crouched may not be optimal for me anymore. It is also shorter by 5mm, my current stem is 105 and I went with 100.

All of these little things may add up to a more comfortable ride. I'd like to put a 28mm tire on too but I can only do that in the front, the rear will barely fit a 25 and then only if it is perfectly centered and even when it is it doesn't stay that way an entire ride or at least the stress moves it.
See if a local will save an old tire to try in back for you before they toss it. Gp5000 fit true to size. 4000 were way bigger. So worth a shot.
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Old 12-04-19, 05:44 PM
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Missed one of these last year...

Perfect fit! Life just got easier! Only weighs 32lbs...not a comfortable handle after a while!

1989 hats! ‘bout two dollars apiece for three...great under my bike helmet! That is my last Airgas welding helmet hat...out of the loop on the welding equipment...
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Old 12-04-19, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by billnuke1

Missed one of these last year...

Perfect fit! Life just got easier! Only weighs 32lbs...not a comfortable handle after a while!

1989 hats! ‘bout two dollars apiece for three...great under my bike helmet! That is my last Airgas welding helmet hat...out of the loop on the welding equipment...
Backpack bling...
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Old 12-04-19, 09:09 PM
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what brand/model did you decide on?
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Old 12-04-19, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by burnthesheep
See if a local will save an old tire to try in back for you before they toss it. Gp5000 fit true to size. 4000 were way bigger. So worth a shot.
You must have seen my other posts, yes I'm going to try a GP5000 in 28 in the rear and if it doesn't fit I'll put it in front and stick the fairly new 23 back in the rear. My current 23 is getting a bit worn in back so it is almost due and I'll put it on my old steel bike.

I've just retired and I have nothing better to do than to re-tire my bikes.
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Old 12-04-19, 10:41 PM
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Three sets of Enve wheels (3.4, 5.6 disk,7.8) on the way. Excited, though I can't say I'm proud of myself.
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Old 12-04-19, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
what brand/model did you decide on?
Sabbat E12 Ultra. Hadn't heard of them previously (hell, I haven't heard of 90% of the brands in the TWS space) but they seem to be one of the consensus sub-$100 picks.
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Old 12-05-19, 12:33 AM
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Old 12-05-19, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Noctilux.95
Three sets of Enve wheels (3.4, 5.6 disk,7.8) on the way. Excited, though I can't say I'm proud of myself.
I hope you got them at Competitive Cyclist( at 50% off).
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Old 12-05-19, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
I hope you got them at Competitive Cyclist( at 50% off).
One at half off at competitive cyclist with the other two using the trade in program (alloy wheels) for $1700 out the door for each wheelset. The 3.4 clinchers will replace my Mavics on the TCR, 5.6 disk will go on my new Cervelo R5, and the 7.8’s will be used on my Madone SLR with speed tri-bar set up. This morning I’m riding my humble gravel bike with humble wheels on the filthy roads after heavy rain pour the last two days.
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Old 12-05-19, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by burnthesheep
See if a local will save an old tire to try in back for you before they toss it. Gp5000 fit true to size. 4000 were way bigger. So worth a shot.
I have my rear wheel off because the bike is on the trainer and have it up next to the front wheel. The rear GP4000 is clearly wider than the GP5000 in front. This then begs the question, if a GP5000 in a 25 is the same size as a GP4000 in a 23, where is the advantage? Just because it is stated as being larger it won't make much difference on the ride over what I have if in actuality it is the same size.

In any case I'm not going to pin any improvement on a few mm of tire width.
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Old 12-06-19, 06:01 AM
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Just picked up a set of Roval cl50 wheels and continental gp5000 tires for my Tcr.
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Old 12-06-19, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by zacster
I have my rear wheel off because the bike is on the trainer and have it up next to the front wheel. The rear GP4000 is clearly wider than the GP5000 in front. This then begs the question, if a GP5000 in a 25 is the same size as a GP4000 in a 23, where is the advantage? Just because it is stated as being larger it won't make much difference on the ride over what I have if in actuality it is the same size.

In any case I'm not going to pin any improvement on a few mm of tire width.
So GP5000 size won't balloon as GP4000?
I know I can't fit a GP4SII 700x28 on my Tri-A.
Would it somehow fit a GP5 700x28 from above? The place that rubs is the cross bar on seat stay where you have the brake caliphers attached when I tried the 700x28 GP4.

For my commuter, currently on GP4 700x28 thinking going cheap for the Ultra Sport II 700x32, or try the GP5 700x32 - that from above seems will be similar to what I have currently?
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Old 12-06-19, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by phtomita
So GP5000 size won't balloon as GP4000?
I know I can't fit a GP4SII 700x28 on my Tri-A.
Would it somehow fit a GP5 700x28 from above? The place that rubs is the cross bar on seat stay where you have the brake caliphers attached when I tried the 700x28 GP4.

For my commuter, currently on GP4 700x28 thinking going cheap for the Ultra Sport II 700x32, or try the GP5 700x32 - that from above seems will be similar to what I have currently?
From this comparison review at BRR, see the below actual measured width and height on their wheel. You could try and measure your GP4s to determine difference.
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...000-comparison
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Old 12-06-19, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zacster
I have my rear wheel off because the bike is on the trainer and have it up next to the front wheel. The rear GP4000 is clearly wider than the GP5000 in front. This then begs the question, if a GP5000 in a 25 is the same size as a GP4000 in a 23, where is the advantage? Just because it is stated as being larger it won't make much difference on the ride over what I have if in actuality it is the same size.

In any case I'm not going to pin any improvement on a few mm of tire width.
New CRR improvement regardless of sizes. Apparently about 12% improvement (a watt per tire).

I went from 23mm 4000's on a wheelset to 25mm rear and 23mm front gp5000 on a wider wheelset recently and the CRR change at low speeds was noticeable. Like, I could see fewer watts routinely when just farting around at like 15mph to 17mph.

Also, the geometry isn't 1:1 that a 4000 23mm is now a 5000 25mm. It's somewhere in between. So, since it's in between you "might" be able to fit something different there.
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Old 12-06-19, 03:51 PM
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Thanks to a killer Black Friday deal, I was able to pick up a R5 frameset...with the slickest color scheme I've ever seen.
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Old 12-06-19, 04:36 PM
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Thanks to a killer Black Friday deal, I was able to pick up a R5 frameset...with the slickest color scheme I've ever seen.
Oh, that is nice!
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Old 12-06-19, 05:16 PM
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Very Christmasy
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Old 12-06-19, 05:36 PM
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Very Christmasy
I never looked at it that way, but now that you mentioned it...it is pretty festive looking, isn't it?
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Old 12-07-19, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
From this comparison review at BRR, see the below actual measured width and height on their wheel. You could try and measure your GP4s to determine difference.
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...000-comparison
If I had a caliper I could measure both GP4 and GP5 since I have one of each on my bike at the moment on identical rims. It would be interesting to see. Maybe it's worth a trip to Harbor Freight to pick up a cheap one, although my experience with HF is not very good. Lots of cheap crap. You get what you pay for, so maybe HD or Lowes instead. All three are within shouting range of each other.

After all, no weekend is complete without a trip to Home Depot or Lowes.
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Old 12-07-19, 10:01 AM
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After all, no weekend is complete without a trip to Home Depot or Lowes.
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New Enve 7.8’s on my Madone SLR.
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Gorgeous Bike.
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What handlebars on on the Madone? That is a fantastic looking bike.
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