Bike Build Decisions
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Bike Build Decisions
The good (and neat) thing about building your own bike is picking out the components. My first bike, a Trek 3500 mountain bike, ending up costing almost twice as much after I changed out everything to my liking. Here are a couple of choices that I've made (but not yet bought) and was wondering if anyone out there had any opinions on them.
Pedals--- After reading about the Littleford expedition bike in the last issue of Adventure Cyclist I chose the MSW CP 200. I like the idea of being able to use my SPDs or my tennis shoes when ever I want. I also like the size of the platform side of the pedal.
Tires--- (or tyres for those of you across the pond) I like to ride both on road and dirt/gravel roads. So far the Schwalbe Marathon Plus tour hs 404 in 700x40 looks to be the best choice.
If you have any experience with either of these I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks
Pedals--- After reading about the Littleford expedition bike in the last issue of Adventure Cyclist I chose the MSW CP 200. I like the idea of being able to use my SPDs or my tennis shoes when ever I want. I also like the size of the platform side of the pedal.
Tires--- (or tyres for those of you across the pond) I like to ride both on road and dirt/gravel roads. So far the Schwalbe Marathon Plus tour hs 404 in 700x40 looks to be the best choice.
If you have any experience with either of these I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks
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I think they would be great for commuting on glass strewn roads, but I wouldn't tour on them if I could get them for free.
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Thank you for the information. I had assumed if I didn't like how stiff the ride felt I could lower the air pressure to improve the feel. I guess it's a real trick to find tires that are flat resistant and lively feel at the same time.
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You have to figure out what matters most to you since these choices are all compromises. Your choices may well be different than mine, so I don't want to oversell my opinions too much. Some folks absolutely love the Pluses.
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What Pete said about the Schwalbes. They roll like pigs.
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Yeah, I've only put SMP's on for desert thorn protection, but they roll like pigs as Chop61 so succinctly put it.
Gatorskins, Gator Hardshells are my tires of choice.
I've been commuting on GP Four seasons and would happily tour in wetter conditions with them... and no I don't work for Conti! ;p
Gatorskins, Gator Hardshells are my tires of choice.
I've been commuting on GP Four seasons and would happily tour in wetter conditions with them... and no I don't work for Conti! ;p
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I really should add that I live in Texas. When riding I'm dealing with grass burrs, goat heads, cactus, and worst of all mesquite. Puncture protection is the most important thing.
My first trip was to a place called Caprock canyon. I was riding the tires that came with the bike, (bontrager L T 3) I spent more time fixing flats than riding. I switched to schwalbe marathon and have only had one flat since, however when I ride on dirt or gravel I really don't have much traction. For my Disc Trucker I'm looking for the best of both worlds. (aren't we all) Flat resistant, and good on both road and dirt.
My first trip was to a place called Caprock canyon. I was riding the tires that came with the bike, (bontrager L T 3) I spent more time fixing flats than riding. I switched to schwalbe marathon and have only had one flat since, however when I ride on dirt or gravel I really don't have much traction. For my Disc Trucker I'm looking for the best of both worlds. (aren't we all) Flat resistant, and good on both road and dirt.
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There ya go! Goatheads! SMP's make sense.
You said something about lowering the pressure to get a better ride feel. Not sure about that, maybe it would make them a bit less bouncy, but I ran mine on max pressure to make them feel as fast as possible.
You said something about lowering the pressure to get a better ride feel. Not sure about that, maybe it would make them a bit less bouncy, but I ran mine on max pressure to make them feel as fast as possible.
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For off road MTB type riding in thorn country, I'd go tubeless.
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The 'both on road and dirt/gravel' is what Continental Travel Contact designed them to do, + Gatorskin reinforced casing too ..
their ride past the end of the paved world, touring tire, in 622-37 and 42 & 559-47.
their ride past the end of the paved world, touring tire, in 622-37 and 42 & 559-47.
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The Schwalbe Marathon Plus, Panaracer Tourguard Plus and Michelin Protek Cross Max all weigh a lot.
I'm not sure the Schwalbe is even available in 700 x 40. I just bought some Michelin Protek Cross Max and haven't tried them yet but I can tell they're about as large as my 700 x 45 Kenda Keen Commuter. It's odd how manufacturers can size them like that. In any case, it may be worth it to look at the ISO size like my Michelin are 42-622 ISO which I find huge. Next time I'm tempted to go with 40-622 because the ones I have are so large. (The choice is confusing however because some have complained 700 x 38 isn't enough for rocks. I saw at least one 700 x 38 tire that's actually 40-622.)
I don't know about the pedals mentioned. I know the Shimano T420 might allow for a regular shoe on one side but I saw complaints about clicking.
I'm not sure the Schwalbe is even available in 700 x 40. I just bought some Michelin Protek Cross Max and haven't tried them yet but I can tell they're about as large as my 700 x 45 Kenda Keen Commuter. It's odd how manufacturers can size them like that. In any case, it may be worth it to look at the ISO size like my Michelin are 42-622 ISO which I find huge. Next time I'm tempted to go with 40-622 because the ones I have are so large. (The choice is confusing however because some have complained 700 x 38 isn't enough for rocks. I saw at least one 700 x 38 tire that's actually 40-622.)
I don't know about the pedals mentioned. I know the Shimano T420 might allow for a regular shoe on one side but I saw complaints about clicking.
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I carry two pair of shoes, I want both to work on the bike. Thus on pedals I disagree with staehpj1. I really like to have my SPD bike shoes on most days. But if I run an errand in the evening I want platform for my trail runners. I have also found that after a few days of rain when my cycle shoes are soaked but my other shoes are not, when the sun comes out I would rather ride with my driest shoes on the bike while the wettest shoes are drying out. I use Shimano M324, but if the MSW CP200 works well for you, great.
At home I have platform on my errand bike and foldup bike, double sided SPD on my touring bikes.
At home I have platform on my errand bike and foldup bike, double sided SPD on my touring bikes.
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I follow a similar approach and take two pairs of shoes: one SPD and one that are lightweight, made to get wet, and comfortable around camp, in town, or even for hiking on trails. If it's not too cold and looks like rain, I'll actually stop, ditch my socks, and switch to the water shoes, and for that it's really nice to have a platform side on the pedals.
I haven't tried other options, so I can't compare them, but I use the Shimano A530s.
I haven't tried other options, so I can't compare them, but I use the Shimano A530s.
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I looked at the msw cp 200s, but ended up with shimano Spd dual platforms twice now.
I have m324s which are the same shape/design as the ones you chose. I also have a530 pedals .
I agree with your view on the size of the platform- it's nice to have a larger surface.
The m324s are bricks compared to yours, they are probably 200g heavier. But they are a good bit cheaper too.
The a530 pedals are similar weight to yours, I ended up getting them again because the price was right- both were ebay buys.
Hope the pedals work for you, they seemed solid when I looked at them.
I have m324s which are the same shape/design as the ones you chose. I also have a530 pedals .
I agree with your view on the size of the platform- it's nice to have a larger surface.
The m324s are bricks compared to yours, they are probably 200g heavier. But they are a good bit cheaper too.
The a530 pedals are similar weight to yours, I ended up getting them again because the price was right- both were ebay buys.
Hope the pedals work for you, they seemed solid when I looked at them.