I want Campy 10 speed again
05-04-19, 06:33 AM
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I haven't used the Campy 9s/10s, but I will say that the Campy 11s levers are very comfortable, and very functional.
You may well be able to use other versions of derailleurs with the Campy 11 if you wish, as well as using a variety of cranksets.
Anything aluminum can be polished.
You may well be able to use other versions of derailleurs with the Campy 11 if you wish, as well as using a variety of cranksets.
Anything aluminum can be polished.
05-04-19, 09:29 AM
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Confusing? You bet. Hence Campagnolo started to stamp "LETTER" on parts to notate what will and won't work for future reference ("A" for 2015 Chorus and up, "F" for the new 12 speed Record/SuperRecord for example)--as not only did mechanisms like "escape" or "QS" come and go but the cable pull itself changed even when the mechanism internally and the shifter body externally did not (pre-2015, and post-2015 Chorus and up for example will not work together).
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05-04-19, 09:44 AM
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Chris Howard makes Campy look like it should. He's at cycloretro.com. Spend a couple minutes going through his Instagram pics and you will want it.
Prices are all in Australian dollars so it is not all that expensive. You do get to pay twice, once for the parts, a second time to dress them up. Should be dressed up as original but it is not. He can/does work with old scuffed and apparently dead parts. Take a look at what he did to Phil Anderson's 1982 Peugeot team bike.
Prices are all in Australian dollars so it is not all that expensive. You do get to pay twice, once for the parts, a second time to dress them up. Should be dressed up as original but it is not. He can/does work with old scuffed and apparently dead parts. Take a look at what he did to Phil Anderson's 1982 Peugeot team bike.
05-04-19, 06:20 PM
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Yes, I do miss the 'organic' look of the old Campag crank sets. Most of the modern ones are pretty hideous and Shimano cranks are frankly horrendous, in my view. Another reason why I went with SRAM on my current bike. It definitely isn't a thing of beauty like my old late 90s Chorus crank set but it is the best of a bad lot. I think the rest of the Campag groupsets are pretty ok, though. I especially like the skeleton brake calipers.
On the other hand, I really like how modern groups work. The SRAM Force gears just never miss a beat and the brakes are more powerful and more progressive.
On the other hand, I really like how modern groups work. The SRAM Force gears just never miss a beat and the brakes are more powerful and more progressive.
05-05-19, 08:34 AM
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I prefer the classics myself, many were way better aesthetically. I wish they'd revive the Nuovo Record gruppo, and make a Nuovo Rally wide range functionally equivalent to the old Suntour wide range offerings of yore. Campagnolo needs to be both elegant velo art and functional in equal parts.
05-05-19, 08:02 PM
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The original 10s Ergo were a high point in both function and aesthetics. They work perfectly and are beautiful doing it. Even my third-tier Daytona is lovely if a few grams heavier than the higher end lines with more Ti and Carbon.
TBH, my old 9s Mirage (before they screwed that up) also worked beautifully just didn't feel as nice.
TBH, my old 9s Mirage (before they screwed that up) also worked beautifully just didn't feel as nice.
05-08-19, 05:45 PM
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From anyone old enough to wear a brain basket, the mid century Campy stuff is still aesthetically pleasing. I have almost all of my bikes outfitted with the NR and SR which I consider the lightest groupo you can put on anything, except maybe the Simplex stuff form the early 70's, and that didn't hold up well. All of the bikes we used on RAAM, were SR with the exception being one year a Sugino triple for the mountains, but still the SR deraileur. The next year it was a Campy triple. Also the easiest stuff to work on because of fewer moving parts. Sometimes I spend more time making the lower end Shimano stuff work than it pays. JMHO, MH
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