Help with heat fatigue
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I have been thinking that a small generator and a fan would be the ticket for under our tent on race days, but it's more stuff to drag to the races.
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The first hot day of the season is always hard, because you have not acclimatized yet. Try spending as much time in the heat as you can- turn off the AC in your car, go for some long rides in the heat. It takes about two weeks to fully acclimatize.
https://www.irunfar.com/2009/02/heat-acclimation.html
https://www.sportsci.org/encyc/heataccl/heataccl.html
https://www.irunfar.com/2009/02/heat-acclimation.html
https://www.sportsci.org/encyc/heataccl/heataccl.html
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ok.. then absolutely work on cooling yourself externally between races. Find shade, bring LOTS of ice in a cooler, soak your head in it after races.
The purpose of sweating is to suck heat out of your body. You can bypass the part where you have to process the water if you just soak yourself. The colder the water, the better. I bet if you brought a kiddie pool full of ice, people would be paying you for a dip...
The purpose of sweating is to suck heat out of your body. You can bypass the part where you have to process the water if you just soak yourself. The colder the water, the better. I bet if you brought a kiddie pool full of ice, people would be paying you for a dip...
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You can't drink enough fluids to replace everything you sweat. I dump probably 2/3 of the water I bring with me in a crit, the rest goes over my body. Buckets of ice water will help, kiddie pool even more so. Get your core temp down.
Think Landis in that one stage. Ice water drenching him every moment for whatever hours. He stayed cool, everyone else was dying in the heat.
Alexi Grewal attributes a woman who threw a bucket of ice water on him in the 84 Olympic RR. He caught Bauer and beat him in the sprint.
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One more thing. I find that full on AC makes my legs feel stiff/slow. On the way to the race I'll ease off on the AC a bit, direct it up more, and sometimes even cover my legs (if the Missus is driving). Since I don't warm up a lot anyway it really helps.
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Here's a lightweight camping fan that you load up with D-cell batteries that should help keep you cool. No need to haul out a generator. Combine it with some wet towels and it should feel nice.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VEDG5Y
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VEDG5Y
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Those seem to be effective if you are on the bike for a long period of time by keeping the sun off the arms and wicking away sweat. But, for me, track racing is:
- Warmup
- Wait 30 minutes
- Sprint for a few seconds or a minute
- Wait 15-20 minutes
- Sprint for a few seconds or a minute
- Wait 15-20 minutes
- Sprint for a few seconds or a minute
- Wait 15-20 minutes
- etc..
So, there is lots of time just sitting around with no breeze from riding. When the breezes do come by and enter the velodrome there is a collective "Aaaaaaaah" from everyone.
Road rides in hot weather aren't as bad as standing/sitting around in hot weather.
- Warmup
- Wait 30 minutes
- Sprint for a few seconds or a minute
- Wait 15-20 minutes
- Sprint for a few seconds or a minute
- Wait 15-20 minutes
- Sprint for a few seconds or a minute
- Wait 15-20 minutes
- etc..
So, there is lots of time just sitting around with no breeze from riding. When the breezes do come by and enter the velodrome there is a collective "Aaaaaaaah" from everyone.
Road rides in hot weather aren't as bad as standing/sitting around in hot weather.
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But, I think I can shave off a few minutes here and there.
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I'm waiting to try the Defeet UnD-Ice....though I'm skeptical. IMO, UnderArmour "heat gear" compression isn't as breathable as some other baselayer materials. I've stopped wearing it.
I pour a ton of water on me during warmup and race when it's hot. I started a crit on Sunday in ~95 degrees soaking wet (and not all from sweat). Warming up with an ice pack on my back or neck also helps.
I pour a ton of water on me during warmup and race when it's hot. I started a crit on Sunday in ~95 degrees soaking wet (and not all from sweat). Warming up with an ice pack on my back or neck also helps.
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A recent study shows people might warm up too much. I tend to think the same thing. I've always heard that you don't want the first hard effort of the day to be during the race, which I agree with. But, I see all these people before crits and even road races on their trainers doing sprints or 1 minute all out and just sweating themselves into the ground and I wonder, why?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21551012
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21551012
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A recent study shows people might warm up too much. I tend to think the same thing. I've always heard that you don't want the first hard effort of the day to be during the race, which I agree with. But, I see all these people before crits and even road races on their trainers doing sprints or 1 minute all out and just sweating themselves into the ground and I wonder, why?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21551012
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21551012
The traditional WU began with 20 min of cycling with a gradual intensity increase from 60% to 95% of maximal heart rate (HRmax). Following this, there were 4 sprints at 8 min intervals.
I hate that warmup. HATE IT.
I typically do something like 20 minutes of 60-70% intensity then 2 sprints.
Get this, I started my warmup late for an event (had equipment issues) and wound up doing a warmup almost exactly like this, but I only rode for 10 minutes.
The experimental WU was shorter with less high intensity exercise. Intensity increased from 60% to 70% HRmax over 15 min, and this was followed with just 1 sprint.
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Aren't there medical ice packs that activate chemically by cracking them open? If so, I'd like to try them on rides, afixed to the back of the neck...anyone know of these? I know they make hot packs like this (like hand warmers), but I thought they make cold ones too...
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Step 1: Place ice cubes in used (or new if you're into it) panty hose.
Step 2: Place sexy ice bundle in back of jersey near your neck/upper back.
Step 3: Crush soles whilst remaining cool.
Step 4: Reuse panty hose at a later date.
Step 5: Spend money saved on single use ice packs on sub 900g 80mm carbon tubulars with ceramic bearings.
Step 2: Place sexy ice bundle in back of jersey near your neck/upper back.
Step 3: Crush soles whilst remaining cool.
Step 4: Reuse panty hose at a later date.
Step 5: Spend money saved on single use ice packs on sub 900g 80mm carbon tubulars with ceramic bearings.
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Heat wave is headed our way just a few days before Masters. I hope it doesn't linger.
FML
By the way, I tried the cooler and ice cold full-sized wet towel this weekend while temps were 98-105 on the track. That worked well. Thanks for the tips.
Hit a PB in max to 15" wattage and solo top speed. I still paled in comparison to the TTown Friday night racers that were there training.
FML
By the way, I tried the cooler and ice cold full-sized wet towel this weekend while temps were 98-105 on the track. That worked well. Thanks for the tips.
Hit a PB in max to 15" wattage and solo top speed. I still paled in comparison to the TTown Friday night racers that were there training.
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Heat wave is headed our way just a few days before Masters. I hope it doesn't linger.
FML
By the way, I tried the cooler and ice cold full-sized wet towel this weekend while temps were 98-105 on the track. That worked well. Thanks for the tips.
Hit a PB in max to 15" wattage and solo top speed. I still paled in comparison to the TTown Friday night racers that were there training.
FML
By the way, I tried the cooler and ice cold full-sized wet towel this weekend while temps were 98-105 on the track. That worked well. Thanks for the tips.
Hit a PB in max to 15" wattage and solo top speed. I still paled in comparison to the TTown Friday night racers that were there training.
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speaking of heat
does anyone know which (road) helmet for around $100 is good? I heard the Lazer sphere is ok
Giro ProLight was on sale for like $87 the other week but I missed that.
does anyone know which (road) helmet for around $100 is good? I heard the Lazer sphere is ok
Giro ProLight was on sale for like $87 the other week but I missed that.
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Heat wave is headed our way just a few days before Masters. I hope it doesn't linger.
FML
By the way, I tried the cooler and ice cold full-sized wet towel this weekend while temps were 98-105 on the track. That worked well. Thanks for the tips.
Hit a PB in max to 15" wattage and solo top speed. I still paled in comparison to the TTown Friday night racers that were there training.
FML
By the way, I tried the cooler and ice cold full-sized wet towel this weekend while temps were 98-105 on the track. That worked well. Thanks for the tips.
Hit a PB in max to 15" wattage and solo top speed. I still paled in comparison to the TTown Friday night racers that were there training.
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In TTown, when the actual high temperature was 89 degrees, the temperature on the track was 91-105 depending on if you were in the sun or not.
They are calling for 92 degrees on Tuesday.
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I have not been to T-Town. Does the track have any covered areas?
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At regionals last year they put up a pretty big tent but MOST people had their own ezups i think... the space under the tent they had was limited but also people tend to take up more room than they need. I didn't ask people to move but I would this year.
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do you guys wear long sleeves for a short race on an outside track when its hot out?
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I am taking a long and a short sleeve skin suit so the answer is yes. I am not sure which events. Skinsuits are hot so sleeves or no sleeves does not make a lot of difference.