How to keep my %$&%$& toes warm??
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How to keep my %$&%$& toes warm??
Last Thursday I think it was in the upper 30's when I rode to work 15+ miles. I wore my merino wool socks (quite thick), then tried wrapping plastic wrap around my feet, then putting my SPD shoes on. Toes still felt frozen when I got to work.
This morning I tried wearing my Injinji toe socks (somewhat thin), the wool socks over that, plastic zipper bags, then my shoes. Toes still got pretty cold. They also felt a bit scrunched together.
So what is the secret for keeping toes warm when it's cold out? I surely thought the plastic would block wind and keep the warmer but I guess not. I did notice condensation inside the bags when I got to work this morning. Suggestions?
This morning I tried wearing my Injinji toe socks (somewhat thin), the wool socks over that, plastic zipper bags, then my shoes. Toes still got pretty cold. They also felt a bit scrunched together.
So what is the secret for keeping toes warm when it's cold out? I surely thought the plastic would block wind and keep the warmer but I guess not. I did notice condensation inside the bags when I got to work this morning. Suggestions?
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Get some %$&%$& shoe covers!
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You're likely restricting the blood flow in your feet, which isn't helping your situation.
I've had good luck with merino wool socks and shoes covers to block the vents. Some folks recommend buying a pair of shoes a size or two larger so that you can comfortably fit extra socks/insulation in them without cutting off circulation.
I've had good luck with merino wool socks and shoes covers to block the vents. Some folks recommend buying a pair of shoes a size or two larger so that you can comfortably fit extra socks/insulation in them without cutting off circulation.
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Well my shoes are already freakin' size EUR 48, US 14.5, and I normally wear size 13.
Shoe covers make that much of a difference huh? I thought the plastic would have a similar effect.
Shoe covers make that much of a difference huh? I thought the plastic would have a similar effect.
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I know I am going to get torched for this but here goes. I was never able to keep my feet warm using SPD no matter what I tried, finally gave up went to regular pedals and shoes this works for me. In my experience the Spd cleats act like a conductor for the cold to go right to your feet.
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Interesting theory. Perhaps I should try it using my Goretex hiking boots on the flat side of my A530 pedals.
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There are chemical toe warmers. I have a 11 mile commute, and I do fine in dry conditions until about 20 F, then, while my overall foot stays warm my toes go numb. I think the SPD cleat heat transfer may have a lot to do with it.
I only remembered my toe warmers once or twice last winter, but they did the trick.
I only remembered my toe warmers once or twice last winter, but they did the trick.
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Last Thursday I think it was in the upper 30's when I rode to work 15+ miles. I wore my merino wool socks (quite thick), then tried wrapping plastic wrap around my feet, then putting my SPD shoes on. Toes still felt frozen when I got to work.
This morning I tried wearing my Injinji toe socks (somewhat thin), the wool socks over that, plastic zipper bags, then my shoes. Toes still got pretty cold. They also felt a bit scrunched together.
So what is the secret for keeping toes warm when it's cold out? I surely thought the plastic would block wind and keep the warmer but I guess not. I did notice condensation inside the bags when I got to work this morning. Suggestions?
This morning I tried wearing my Injinji toe socks (somewhat thin), the wool socks over that, plastic zipper bags, then my shoes. Toes still got pretty cold. They also felt a bit scrunched together.
So what is the secret for keeping toes warm when it's cold out? I surely thought the plastic would block wind and keep the warmer but I guess not. I did notice condensation inside the bags when I got to work this morning. Suggestions?
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Shoe covers and warm wool socks keep me adequately comfortable into the low teens
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You could make toe warmers with duct tape. It might pay to put some insulation inside them.
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Don't know what your budget is but I invested in a pair of shimano MW81's. They are a winter riding shoe. Got it a size bigger than normal. Wear one pair of marino socks. When it gets below 25F slap on a pair of boot covers and you are good to go. It is real important to make sure you have lots of wiggle room to keep the blood flowing.
2nd option is to wear lousy gloves so that your hands get so cold that you forget about the cold in your toes.
2nd option is to wear lousy gloves so that your hands get so cold that you forget about the cold in your toes.
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Plastic bags, duct tape, shoe covers? Are SPD shoes with their built-in metal heat loss conducters really that important for your commute? If not, I recommend platform pedals and regular shoes/boots made for cold weather. Works for me without wacky improvised accessories at below 0° F.
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Wear a warm hat. Seriously. Without blood flow to your feet, NOTHING you wear will keep your feet warm. It's all about blood flow. Heat up your brain's thermostat and in an effort too cool itself your brain will command your blood vessels to expand and pump warm blood away from the brain and to your extremities.
Next in importance - your core. Keep your core temp up by abiding by the "ABC Rule" (Anything But Cotton). Fleece, wool, nylon, polyester etc. Then add a windbreaker and your feet will go to Miami Beach! (Unless your shoes are too tight! Blood flow baby, blood flow!...)
Next in importance - your core. Keep your core temp up by abiding by the "ABC Rule" (Anything But Cotton). Fleece, wool, nylon, polyester etc. Then add a windbreaker and your feet will go to Miami Beach! (Unless your shoes are too tight! Blood flow baby, blood flow!...)
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Also, keeping your legs warm helps keep your feet warm - same with arms and hands - wear fleece lined tights under a wind stop outer layer. If you feel cold on your legs, your feet will always feel cold.
Lastly, if you have a long ride and feet start feeling cold, get off and walk 100 yards. The walking flexes your feet and improves circulation to wam them back up.
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The more I ride in cold temps, the more I believe that the outer layer should be wind resistant/proof and then insulation under that. I rode earlier this fall in -9C (16F) air (-17C/1F or colder wind chill given riding speed) with toasty toes and my "trick" was booties (mine are only moderately wind resistant) over a plastic bag over my shoes over a wool sock. This created an air pocket between my toes and the bag. If I need extra cold protection, I'll put on my DIY Toe Covers for extra insulation, I'll put the bag and booties over top of the toe covers. These toe covers alone have proven their worth at -5C (23F) (air temp, not accounting for wind chill) with only nylon summer-weight socks.
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Shoe covers are the best simple thing. I rode all the last two winters by simply making shoe covers out of plastic shopping bags and duct tape. Put a plastic bag over the toe of the shoe, start wrapping with duct tape, finish by making a loop of duct tape around the heel to hold it on. Cut off the excess bag and cut a hole for the cleats if needed.
Honestly, down to about 30 or so I'm still wearing the thin poly ankle socks that I wear all summer and I've never noticed the cold. This morning it was down to 22*F so I decided to throw on some medium weight full length cotton socks.
I'm considering a DIY electric toe warmer setup for temps below about -10*F where I start getting uncomfortable.
Honestly, down to about 30 or so I'm still wearing the thin poly ankle socks that I wear all summer and I've never noticed the cold. This morning it was down to 22*F so I decided to throw on some medium weight full length cotton socks.
I'm considering a DIY electric toe warmer setup for temps below about -10*F where I start getting uncomfortable.
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spd SANDALS
Thick socks
NEOPRENE DIVING BOOTIES
Keeps my feet toasty warm down to the high 20's, and very effective in the rain as well.
Thick socks
NEOPRENE DIVING BOOTIES
Keeps my feet toasty warm down to the high 20's, and very effective in the rain as well.
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Shoe covers make a world of difference ... wool socks, plastic bags, ect. help the shoe covers work better. But, shoe covers are the key. IMHO
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Plastic bags, duct tape, shoe covers? Are SPD shoes with their built-in metal heat loss conducters really that important for your commute? If not, I recommend platform pedals and regular shoes/boots made for cold weather. Works for me without wacky improvised accessories at below 0° F.
It is so much easier and comfy to go for winter boots than trying to transform summer cycling shoes into winter cycling shoes. I have plenty of well used shoe covers that i don't need anymore. Winter boots require nothing else but your feet. (i still have my dive boots to play with a little)
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Plastic bags, duct tape, shoe covers? Are SPD shoes with their built-in metal heat loss conducters really that important for your commute? If not, I recommend platform pedals and regular shoes/boots made for cold weather. Works for me without wacky improvised accessories at below 0° F.
Wear a warm hat. Seriously. Without blood flow to your feet, NOTHING you wear will keep your feet warm. It's all about blood flow. Heat up your brain's thermostat and in an effort too cool itself your brain will command your blood vessels to expand and pump warm blood away from the brain and to your extremities.
Next in importance - your core. Keep your core temp up by abiding by the "ABC Rule" (Anything But Cotton). Fleece, wool, nylon, polyester etc. Then add a windbreaker and your feet will go to Miami Beach! (Unless your shoes are too tight! Blood flow baby, blood flow!...)
Next in importance - your core. Keep your core temp up by abiding by the "ABC Rule" (Anything But Cotton). Fleece, wool, nylon, polyester etc. Then add a windbreaker and your feet will go to Miami Beach! (Unless your shoes are too tight! Blood flow baby, blood flow!...)
This is my first reaction. You have to have toe wiggle room, plus not excessive pressure higher on your feet. Otherwise blood circulation is reduced, and all the insulation in the world won't keep your feet warm. Wear thinner socks so there's a bit more room in your show, then consider insulation outside of the shoe (neoprene shoe covers) if needed.
Also, keeping your legs warm helps keep your feet warm - same with arms and hands - wear fleece lined tights under a wind stop outer layer. If you feel cold on your legs, your feet will always feel cold.
Lastly, if you have a long ride and feet start feeling cold, get off and walk 100 yards. The walking flexes your feet and improves circulation to wam them back up.
Also, keeping your legs warm helps keep your feet warm - same with arms and hands - wear fleece lined tights under a wind stop outer layer. If you feel cold on your legs, your feet will always feel cold.
Lastly, if you have a long ride and feet start feeling cold, get off and walk 100 yards. The walking flexes your feet and improves circulation to wam them back up.
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My real problem is below about -10*F. I'm still not good down there.
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I rode with my dive boots at -36F/5hr so dive boots can do it eventually. My 7mm neoprene balaclava was even too warm at those temps.
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Loose fitting boots with warm socks, on platform pedals ..
How about Fleece lined Bean Boots ?
How about Fleece lined Bean Boots ?