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remember those 80s drop bars with a second set of "flats", like a biplane?

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Old 09-26-14, 08:45 PM
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remember those 80s drop bars with a second set of "flats", like a biplane?

I hadnt seen a set of bars like this for, I dunno, at least 25 years or more, but a few weeks ago, I saw a young guy riding an old dt bike with them. Talked to him briefly and it was his dads old bike.

What were they called again, can't recall?

Really funny thing was not a week later I saw a teenage girl riding a different bike of the same vintage with another set of biplane drops. Kinda weird, dont see any for decades and then you see two in a week...

I remember them at the time looking pretty snazzy and thinking they would be neat to own, but they were kinda rare back then it seems. Must have been 80s sometime, anyone remember?
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Scott drop.ins.

I remember them well. The post tri.geek era...
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I had one that I found at the bike co-op. It was a comfortable bar but oh so flexy.
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Greg Lemond popularised them for all of 15 minutes and then the UCI decided they looked stupid and banned them.

I thought they looked cool at the time as well, but looking back I wonder just how practical they were? I don't remember seeing anyone actually riding on the extensions, as opposed to MTB bar ends which you always see people using.
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Thanks for the name and image that I tried but couldn't for the life of me find.
With the name I did find a 1997 thread about them, interesting read.

https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...andlebars.html
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Originally Posted by djb
Thanks for the name and image that I tried but couldn't for the life of me find.
With the name I did find a 1997 thread about them, interesting read.

https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...andlebars.html

1997?
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Originally Posted by dtrain
1997?
OK OK, what's ten years between friends?
(You a no putta on the glasses, you a no see da numbers right, kepeesh?)
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I have a set that I ran for awhile back in the day. The added position was cool, but not too much different from the flat behind the drops on a traditional bar. I guess if you're laying down the V like Greg in the pic above then having the grip be left-right instead of front-back would be a benefit but for me it's usually a resting/cruising position.
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I've never tried them, but they look like they would bang your knees when pedaling out of the saddle.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach
I've never tried them, but they look like they would bang your knees when pedaling out of the saddle.
Yup. My knees already brush the bars when I'm out of the saddle.
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Originally Posted by djb
OK OK, what's ten years between friends?
(You a no putta on the glasses, you a no see da numbers right, kepeesh?)
I know, just a typo. But the number of bike forum threads in 1997 was...well probably zero. Though one about Scott drop-ins in theory could be that old.
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They were flexy as hell.

I broke two pairs. They were a liability and more than a few riders required dental work after using them.

Stay away.
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But they are endorsed by international dental associations.
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Originally Posted by dtrain
I know, just a typo. But the number of bike forum threads in 1997 was...well probably zero. Though one about Scott drop-ins in theory could be that old.
Nawww. There were tons of posts in 1997 on usenet. Rec.bicycles. *
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Originally Posted by Leinster
I don't remember seeing anyone actually riding on the extensions, as opposed to MTB bar ends which you always see people using.
Looks like an alternative to riding in IAB position.

Either that or one of those other ideas that belongs in the trash heap along with Softride, noseless saddles, longer cranks, elliptical rings, etc. Someone needs to build a bike with all this crap on it at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
They were flexy as hell.

I broke two pairs. They were a liability and more than a few riders required dental work after using them.

Stay away.
I never broke a pair, instead, mine just sagged. So, I probably stopped using them just before they broke! I was still in "the biz" back then, on the manufacturing side, so I got a hold of pre-production models, etc... Holy soft aluminum! Scott did a bit better when they used better materials for the gen II production model. The first runs were straight 22.2 diameter and came with either 26.0 or 25.4 shims...pretty awesome.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Looks like an alternative to riding in IAB position.

Either that or one of those other ideas that belongs in the trash heap along with Softride, noseless saddles, longer cranks, elliptical rings, etc. Someone needs to build a bike with all this crap on it at the same time.

Thanks for the laugh! Don't forget to include the Grip Shift knobs that went on the end of conventional handlebars.
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Modolo made some 'drop in' type, too..
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I had two sets of those Scott Drop-in bars. There were different models if I recall correctly, the newer ones were a lot stiffer. There were also those bars (or bar) that mounted just below the brake levers tying them together like a brace, as well as the spinaci bars, remember those?
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Looks like an alternative to riding in IAB position.

Either that or one of those other ideas that belongs in the trash heap along with Softride, noseless saddles, longer cranks, elliptical rings, etc. Someone needs to build a bike with all this crap on it at the same time.
beam bikes, noseless saddles, and elliptical rings are all modern tri gear, actually. edit: well, no reason you couldn't use Rotor Bike's Q-Rings on road bikes too, I suppose.

As far as longer cranks, did those really go away, given that bikes come with 175 now, and you can get 180mm mtb cranks easily?

edit: I wonder if Spinaci bars have anything on modern aero bars? Especially shorty ones. I'd like to try the Scott Rake bars.

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