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Old 06-17-20, 07:03 PM
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Issues with Paul Brakes

Hey all, I am having issues with my Paul Brakes tied to 10 speed Sram Force lever with Stan's wheelset. I have the Paul Minimoto up front and the Paul Touring Cantis in the rear. Both are mushy, even with the pads close to the rim. I have had so many issues with these brakes in spite of a lot of people saying they are the best and easy to install/adjust. I have watched all the youtube videos and done all the things.

Am I alone in this? Thoughts? Alternatives? Gah.

Thanks y'all.
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Have you tried compressionless housing? https://www.cxmagazine.com/mechanica...-brake-housing
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One question -are those levers you speak of long pull or short pull? Both Touring Cantis and Minimotos are supposed to use short pull levers.
Second thought: an issue that could cause mushiness is if the pads are not in plane with the rim surface. There's a plastic tool that Cantitoe Road sells for ten dollars from IceToolz that I use to get pad alignment spot on. I have Paul NeoRetro up front with Touring Cantis in back and have massive stopping power. I just have regular brake housing and TRP levers on drop bars. My other bike has a similar setup but with Paul levers on flat bars, similar brake action, no mushiness.
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I do have it set up with compressionless housing.
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Originally Posted by randallr
One question -are those levers you speak of long pull or short pull? Both Touring Cantis and Minimotos are supposed to use short pull levers.
Second thought: an issue that could cause mushiness is if the pads are not in plane with the rim surface. There's a plastic tool that Cantitoe Road sells for ten dollars from IceToolz that I use to get pad alignment spot on. I have Paul NeoRetro up front with Touring Cantis in back and have massive stopping power. I just have regular brake housing and TRP levers on drop bars. My other bike has a similar setup but with Paul levers on flat bars, similar brake action, no mushiness.
Thanks Randall. Gah, I just assumed they are short pull. Do you know if 10speed Force shifters were even made in long pull?
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My TRP brake levers (not brifters) are short pull, they are for drop bars, I would guess your SRAM levers are also short pull being as they are similar, drop bar (brifters?). Not finding a clear indication about that as the new SRAM force are for hydraulics.
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Originally Posted by JBaldauff
Hey all, I am having issues with my Paul Brakes tied to 10 speed Sram Force lever with Stan's wheelset. I have the Paul Minimoto up front and the Paul Touring Cantis in the rear. Both are mushy, even with the pads close to the rim. I have had so many issues with these brakes in spite of a lot of people saying they are the best and easy to install/adjust. I have watched all the youtube videos and done all the things.

Am I alone in this? Thoughts? Alternatives? Gah.

Thanks y'all.
Have you contacted Paul Components directly? Perhaps they have some advice. Seems like the kind of business that might respond to a customer.
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