Vaporware (continued)
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Vaporware (continued)
OK, so whatever happened to that alleged power meter in the pedal spindles? You know the one that 8 months ago half the idiots here were berating me for not buying instead of a Powertap. Which was odd at the time since you couldn't actually buy the thing. I haven't heard anything about this lately.
So?
So?
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Meh, you can be happy to be proven right - I'm bummed that it got delayed. The independent L/R pedaling analysis would have been very useful for me...
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I've seen this show before. Too many times. Particularly in the software business, where the term originated. I've been in my business for 20 years. If I had $10 for every vaporware episode I've been through on the computer side, I could buy you all coffee @ Starbucks.
The really stupid part is that people were really insisting I should buy this new product last Fall instead of the wireless Powertap. You know, the one that may be available in 2010. Or maybe not. And we're halfway through the year already. Very happy with Psimet's Ptap Zipp wheel set. It has made my Power Meter life much easier.
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^^ Fair enough.
Although I do think the term vaporware, as a pejorative, really only applies once a few deadlines have been missed - as in, now - that's just splitting hairs. Your point stands.
Although I do think the term vaporware, as a pejorative, really only applies once a few deadlines have been missed - as in, now - that's just splitting hairs. Your point stands.
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Even if it was released in the near future (which won't happen), the prudent thing to do IMO would be to wait 6 months to year after it hits the market, for all the bugs to be fixed, the competitors to adjust their prices, etc.
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I hope these Metrigear guys succeed, the more competition in the power meter market, the better for everyone. But a pedal spindle is a tough place for those delicate electronics. Maybe they can pull it off. The field testing is going to be the hard part, and my guess is that they're finding that out right now.
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To be fair, I don't recall anyone saying don't buy the PT. What people did say was that product announcement but no product =/= vaporware, an assertion I stand by.
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I hope these Metrigear guys succeed, the more competition in the power meter market, the better for everyone. But a pedal spindle is a tough place for those delicate electronics. Maybe they can pull it off. The field testing is going to be the hard part, and my guess is that they're finding that out right now.
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Another note on Metrigear - It looks like their original direction/partnership with Speedplay pedals has changed course. The latest word is that the powermeters will be incorporated into non-specific pedal spindles. It might still be Speedplay, but I'm guessing that whatever agreement Speeplay and Metrigear had in place is falling apart. This is not unusual as product launches are delayed and partners start going sideways. I'd be curious to know what is going on behind the scenes there.
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OK, so whatever happened to that alleged power meter in the pedal spindles? You know the one that 8 months ago half the idiots here were berating me for not buying instead of a Powertap. Which was odd at the time since you couldn't actually buy the thing. I haven't heard anything about this lately.
So?
So?
I challenge you to find me a revolutionary product announcement in any industry that was delivered on time.
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Hey don't get me wrong, I'm all for this product. My observations are not so much about Metrigear, it's regarding the bike weenies here.
If these guys can pull this off it will be very impressive. I hope they bring a reliable and competitive product to market. Looks great on paper. I'll actually be amazed if this gizmo comes out and works well.
If these guys can pull this off it will be very impressive. I hope they bring a reliable and competitive product to market. Looks great on paper. I'll actually be amazed if this gizmo comes out and works well.
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^^^ I KNEW that was coming!
But it doesn't qualify - it wasn't announced and then released on the date specified; it was sprung on us like a surprise pile of dog poo in a barefoot lawn.
But it doesn't qualify - it wasn't announced and then released on the date specified; it was sprung on us like a surprise pile of dog poo in a barefoot lawn.
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Note that I said "revolutionary" product. iPad's about as revolutionary as a McRib sandwich that gets re-released every year. Tablets are not new. Apple didn't even mention the iPhone at CES 2006, the year before its release.
And as WhyFi states, show me the date claims before the release...
And as WhyFi states, show me the date claims before the release...
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There were MP3 players before the iPod. Did hardly anybody actually have one? The iPod ushered in the demise of the CD.
You'll see.
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Hey don't get me wrong, I'm all for this product. My observations are not so much about Metrigear, it's regarding the bike weenies here.
If these guys can pull this off it will be very impressive. I hope they bring a reliable and competitive product to market. Looks great on paper. I'll actually be amazed if this gizmo comes out and works well.
If these guys can pull this off it will be very impressive. I hope they bring a reliable and competitive product to market. Looks great on paper. I'll actually be amazed if this gizmo comes out and works well.