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Old 12-23-19, 02:05 PM
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The Raleigh Twins Competition and Grand Sports

There are pics online of Raleigh Gran(d) Sport(s), and pics of lagoon blue Competitions but I couldn't find any pics with both in the same picture comparing them. Other than the lugs, they're pretty much the same bike.
I just picked up this 71 Competition so I'm still working on it. I'll have the handlebars wrapped in a few days but I wanted to take advantage of this nice weather we're having in the Chicago area and take a few pictures.
The Grand Sports is a 73 which I've built up with period correct parts but not original to the bike. The Competition is mostly original I think, other than the wheels.









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I've owned both, but not at the same time. I'd be curious as to how the weight compares. Some Gran(d) Sport(s) were DB 531, some straight gauge. The Reynolds sticker on yours seems to indicate a butted triangle.
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Hard to tell, but does the GS have a narrower chainstay at the dropout?

Now you just need a white, MK I Professional.
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Beautiful

v. nice.
did you ride or only take pics?
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Originally Posted by USAZorro
Hard to tell, but does the GS have a narrower chainstay at the dropout?

Now you just need a white, MK I Professional.
They're both the same. Maybe the chrome on the GS makes it look narrower. I like the chrome stays better.
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Originally Posted by chainwhip
v. nice.
did you ride or only take pics?
Thanks

I rode the Comp just down the rode a little. It was the first time I rode it since I reassembled it. I disassembled it completely, cleaned and polished everything, then put it back together.
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IIRC the tubing was different and maybe the geometry. The Competition came with tubulars, the GS didn't. That said, there were so many oddballs.
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
IIRC the tubing was different and maybe the geometry.
the geometry looks quite close in the first pic.

OP, Looks like a Stronglight crank on the GS...What's the crank on the Comp?
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Originally Posted by chainwhip
the geometry looks quite close in the first pic.

OP, Looks like a Stronglight crank on the GS...What's the crank on the Comp?
The comp has a Zeus crankset, front and rear derailleurs and shifters. Milremo stem and unknown handlebars, no markings at all.
GS has Stronglight crank, Suntour Cyclone derailleurs and barcons. GB randonneur handlebars with GB stem.
Both bike have Weinmann center pulls.
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Nice...

Oooooh AND Aaaaaah.
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Great photoset, thanks!
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Originally Posted by 76SLT
The Grand Sports is a 73 which I've built up with period correct parts but not original to the bike.
That's OK, nobody will notice. I've never seen 2 GSs with the same equipment. It seems like they just rummaged around for parts, on any given day.
Thanks for the eye candy. IMHO, 70's Raleigh lagoon blue on white are the prettiest bikes ever, esp the GS with the GB Randonneur bar. I have a 76? GS white on lagoon blue, close second,
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Really enjoying the visual comparison. I take it the Competition has Zeus dropouts - what about the Grand Sports?

Also quite curious to hear the ride comparison too.

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Echoing what others have said, loving the bikes and the photo shoot.

Much as I like the GS, the Comp blows it out of the water for me. Always have been a sucker for Nervex Pro lugs. That Comp has great bones and the polishing/rejuvenation job you've done on it is amazing. The rare (for a Comp) color combo makes it that much more so.

I think I'd like it better with a Brooks Pro saddle though, and the pedals are crying out for toe clips. I hope I'm not insulting your work to say so. I know, not done yet (e.g. untaped bars).
I have lots of original Weinmann reddish 4-dot brake pads, PM me if you need some. If it's for riding though, updating the pads is certainly understandable.

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Originally Posted by bulgie
Echoing what others have said, loving the bikes and the photo shoot.

Much as I like the GS, the Comp blows it out of the water for me. Always have been a sucker for Nervex Pro lugs. That Comp has great bones and the polishing/rejuvenation job you've done on it is amazing. The rare (for a Comp) color combo makes it that much more so.

I think I'd like it better with a Brooks Pro saddle though, and the pedals are crying out for toe clips. I hope I'm not insulting your work to say so. I know, not done yet (e.g. untaped bars).
I have lots of original Weinmann reddish 4-dot brake pads, PM me if you need some. If it's for riding though, updating the pads is certainly understandable.

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I agree with you on the saddle. It came to me with the Brooks B15N that's on it but it's pretty worn. I have a Pro to put on it that will go well. I wrapped the bars today. Found a great color match for the two bike colors. It's called Cinelli Cyanotype white. Tell me what you think. I was going to go solid white.
I have new Koolstop pads to put on. It has Suntour pads that stop pretty good. I rode it a couple miles today. It was 50 degrees today! It rode great. I look forward to spring when I can really take it out for a good ride.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Really enjoying the visual comparison. I take it the Competition has Zeus dropouts - what about the Grand Sports?

Also quite curious to hear the ride comparison too.

-Kurt
The comp has Zeus but the GS are unmarked. I'll be able to give a better ride comparison in the spring but so far I think they're pretty closely matched. Both are fun to ride.
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You are a lucky, lucky rider! Those are gorgeous!

I'm gonna try to stop drooling now. Thanks for the great pics.
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