Difference between a $500 bike and $5K bike
06-29-20, 02:38 PM
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Those are very pretty boxes.
I enjoy the warning not to use a different kind of 'drain cable', presumably because a normal power cord would turn your sand into an active component.
I enjoy the warning not to use a different kind of 'drain cable', presumably because a normal power cord would turn your sand into an active component.
06-29-20, 02:44 PM
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As for the original question, I think he picked $500 because he assumed $500 would buy you a decent new bicycle. (A Trek FX1 is $440 and the FX2 is $630, so this is probably not completely unreasonable, in retrospect).
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06-29-20, 03:10 PM
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Skipping the difference between a $500 bike and a $5000 bike is the difference between a $500 bike and a $1500 or $2000 bike.
Generally: the parts on the $500 bike are a lot more likely to break, etc.
Generally: the parts on the $500 bike are a lot more likely to break, etc.
06-29-20, 03:38 PM
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The two bikes are actually identical. Same brand, model, age, number of miles, both carbon fiber.
The $5000 bike is flawless. The $500 bike has deep gash in the top tube.
The $5000 bike is flawless. The $500 bike has deep gash in the top tube.
06-29-20, 05:12 PM
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Kia is no Benz
don't hate the player...but the game.
sometimes more is better....not always needed but just is better.
neighbor has an amazing flat black royals....coupe. with gull wing doors.
crazy nice but insane $$$.
a G Wagon benz would do just fine.
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06-29-20, 06:00 PM
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06-29-20, 06:27 PM
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That's because they don't last. After 2-3 years the first owner/ lessor sells the car. The next keeps it for a few years until things start to break. They are overly complicated and any little thing is a $1000 part. The 3rd owner thinks they can afford to maintain it but quickly learns it's a money pit. The 4th owner always wanted a Mercedes and also learns they're constantly putting money into it. The 5th owner buys it cheap, thinks they can fix it themselves but learns they can't and it sits in their driveway rotting away.
While most Japanese cars, such at Toyota, Honda, and Korean Kia do last for over 200,000 miles with only minor repairs.
When it comes to Mercedes, only the second owner gets value. They buy it after the major depreciation and sells it before things go south.
While most Japanese cars, such at Toyota, Honda, and Korean Kia do last for over 200,000 miles with only minor repairs.
When it comes to Mercedes, only the second owner gets value. They buy it after the major depreciation and sells it before things go south.
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That's because they don't last. After 2-3 years the first owner/ lessor sells the car. The next keeps it for a few years until things start to break. They are overly complicated and any little thing is a $1000 part. The 3rd owner thinks they can afford to maintain it but quickly learns it's a money pit. The 4th owner always wanted a Mercedes and also learns they're constantly putting money into it. The 5th owner buys it cheap, thinks they can fix it themselves but learns they can't and it sits in their driveway rotting away.
While most Japanese cars, such at Toyota, Honda, and Korean Kia do last for over 200,000 miles with only minor repairs.
When it comes to Mercedes, only the second owner gets value. They buy it after the major depreciation and sells it before things go south.
While most Japanese cars, such at Toyota, Honda, and Korean Kia do last for over 200,000 miles with only minor repairs.
When it comes to Mercedes, only the second owner gets value. They buy it after the major depreciation and sells it before things go south.
also most higher end cars have great warranty and maintenance covered tis why they cost so much.
1st owners have everything covered. as part of the cost.
3yeare full maintenance covered soup to nutz.
why cost higher...
but yes a maximalist or loaded Camry is very nice.
but most at country club prefer the rover.
06-29-20, 06:52 PM
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06-29-20, 07:35 PM
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the Last few post is my turn off of Expensive MTB's
buy em ride em for a season, and then move on, Only the Second owners win. the third and fourth owners get screwed over with a bike looking for a shock that might work.
buy em ride em for a season, and then move on, Only the Second owners win. the third and fourth owners get screwed over with a bike looking for a shock that might work.
06-29-20, 08:45 PM
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As... when you ride a $5000 bike everything meshes together, you can hear it and feel it. It is like music to your ears. It is the absence of that little annoying click or brush from slight mis-alignment of the lower quality components that you find on a $500 bike. And that annoying sound is with you for hours, like listening to cheap audio equipment.
And for a lot of cyclists, those little noises drive them crazy. They will disassemble a bike to find it. I can hardly bear to pass someone with a squeaky bike, and it is only for a moment. I would go bonkers over a couple of hours. And there is something about a silent drivetrain.
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06-30-20, 01:21 AM
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Many! Been to Africa? Loads of old Mercs around a lot older than that as well as the more recent, 'complicated' models. Here in Europe, they seem to last too. A taxi favourite, a businessman's favourite. Never owned one myself, I prefer BMW and Porsche (9 BMW's, 1 Porsche in my time thus far). I'm one of those who changes car's frequently because I like new toys. Still, I see plenty of old Mercs around.
Here in Portugal, cars cost a lot due to various additional taxes - roughly double and more on some models than what you would pay in the USA, for example. As a result, you get to see how long cars can really last. From what I can see, most car's will last a very long time and it has less to do with original quality than it does the cost of spares. Toyota spares are generally cheaper than Merc, Toyota's are therefore most likely to be kicking around a bit longer while some Mercs will just be cheaper to bin. Stuff all to do with the Merc being inferior mechanically, it just costs more to maintain part vs part. Those who have access to good used spares or better OEM prices, keep their Mercs longer.
Here in Portugal, cars cost a lot due to various additional taxes - roughly double and more on some models than what you would pay in the USA, for example. As a result, you get to see how long cars can really last. From what I can see, most car's will last a very long time and it has less to do with original quality than it does the cost of spares. Toyota spares are generally cheaper than Merc, Toyota's are therefore most likely to be kicking around a bit longer while some Mercs will just be cheaper to bin. Stuff all to do with the Merc being inferior mechanically, it just costs more to maintain part vs part. Those who have access to good used spares or better OEM prices, keep their Mercs longer.
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06-30-20, 09:05 AM
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06-30-20, 04:11 PM
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Your friend is a ******bag troll.
if he were to ride a few thousand mike in a season, he would see the beauty. If he doesn’t do that, it’s pointless to try to convince him.
if he were to ride a few thousand mike in a season, he would see the beauty. If he doesn’t do that, it’s pointless to try to convince him.
06-30-20, 07:18 PM
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OP: The difference between a $500 bike and $5000 bike is a lot greater than the difference between a $1000 bike and a $5000 bike. Let me explain.
You spend a little more, you get a lot more value. Then you have to spend a lot more to get only a little more value.
The $500 bike may not even shift great, or have good brake modulation, and it will be heavy by modern standards.
The $1000 bike will have great shifting and braking. It will be heavier than the $5000 bike but by a lesser margin than the $500 bike. It is a "very well made, off the rack suit".
The $5000 bike will have superb components that not only function well and are durable but are lightweight. The bike frame will be lighter, and it will be stiff in the way you want it but flexible in the way you want it. The frame geometry will be superb, well designed for the bike's intended purpose, but only noticeable by the most experienced riders. The bike will fit better, perhaps even made to measure for you like a "tailor made suit".
You spend a little more, you get a lot more value. Then you have to spend a lot more to get only a little more value.
The $500 bike may not even shift great, or have good brake modulation, and it will be heavy by modern standards.
The $1000 bike will have great shifting and braking. It will be heavier than the $5000 bike but by a lesser margin than the $500 bike. It is a "very well made, off the rack suit".
The $5000 bike will have superb components that not only function well and are durable but are lightweight. The bike frame will be lighter, and it will be stiff in the way you want it but flexible in the way you want it. The frame geometry will be superb, well designed for the bike's intended purpose, but only noticeable by the most experienced riders. The bike will fit better, perhaps even made to measure for you like a "tailor made suit".
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When you add electronic shifting the price and easily exceed $5000.
All i can say is never take an expensive bike for an extended test ride.
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06-30-20, 07:40 PM
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@Duragrouch My custom bike with Di2 was a lot more than $5K six years ago. (I didn't tell him.)
The custom frame is steel, but it turns out it has almost identical measurements to a Trek Domane. It rides a lot nicer than a $5K Domane, so I am not complaining.
The custom frame is steel, but it turns out it has almost identical measurements to a Trek Domane. It rides a lot nicer than a $5K Domane, so I am not complaining.
06-30-20, 07:48 PM
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So he's one of those is he?
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The real difference between a $500 bike and a $5000 bike...
The $5000 bike is in stock and who knows when the $500 one will be.
John
The $5000 bike is in stock and who knows when the $500 one will be.
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