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Old 07-26-20, 02:39 PM
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Can Stem Extend Slightly Higher Than Steerer?

Bought a new stem today for the rise but when I put it on, it extends a little under 1/2" from the top of the steerer. The stem cover and screw still had more than enough threads to tighten and everything feels tight and good but I was just wondering if this could be a problem over time? I do have a spacer beneath I could remove if I had to but I really like the height it's at now so I'd prefer to leave it. Thanks!
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Unstated , I assume you mean a threadless steerer.. a steel steerer as long as the top bolt of the 2 on the back has something to grasp,
Stem, no higher than the center line of that bolt hole, you should be OK..

Carbon steerer, the whole stem , no higher than flush with the top of the steerer, add a 5 mm spacer above for the headset adjustment function .
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If you have a carbon fork, the mfr. will tell you the absolute limits. My Cervelo wants the top of the stem 2-4mm above the top of the steerer, zero spacers above stem, and a max of 50mm below stem (bearing cap and spacers combined.)

Steel fork? Do whatever you want really, as long as the stem bolts aren't grabbing air.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Unstated , I assume you mean a threadless steerer.. a steel steerer as long as the top bolt of the 2 on the back has something to grasp,
Stem, no higher than the center line of that bolt hole, you should be OK..

Carbon steerer, the whole stem , no higher than flush with the top of the steerer, add a 5 mm spacer above for the headset adjustment function .
Per website it says it's a "threadless alloy steerer".
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope
If you have a carbon fork, the mfr. will tell you the absolute limits. My Cervelo wants the top of the stem 2-4mm above the top of the steerer, zero spacers above stem, and a max of 50mm below stem (bearing cap and spacers combined.)

Steel fork? Do whatever you want really, as long as the stem bolts aren't grabbing air.
Website says it's ''threadless alloy". The steerer comes to about the bottom of the top bolt of the two on the back of the stem if that makes sense...As I mentioned, it feels secure... What exactly would/could happen worse case scenario?
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Originally Posted by cougarkite
The steerer comes to about the bottom of the top bolt of the two on the back of the stem
So the top stem bolt isn't clamping against anything. Not something I'd do.
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The top bolt must completely cover the steerer.
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Originally Posted by cougarkite
Website says it's ''threadless alloy". The steerer comes to about the bottom of the top bolt of the two on the back of the stem if that makes sense...As I mentioned, it feels secure... What exactly would/could happen worse case scenario?
worst case? Death. There is a reason that you don’t see one-bolt stems on the market.

I play fast and loose with drivetrain specs (low consequence), I mix and match brakes and levers across series (redundant systems), and experiment with wheel sizes outside of a frame sets design parameters, but I don’t mess with the handlebar/steerer connection. The worst crashes I have seen and heard of are when the bars are in the rider’s hands, but don’t have control of the front wheel.
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If you need the bars that high, then the bike does not fit you. Switch to an endurance geometry frame with a taller head tube. Please a side view photo of the entire bike as you have it now?
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Originally Posted by cougarkite
...As I mentioned, it feels secure... What exactly would/could happen worse case scenario?
As other have said a very very risky situation. Please check out these instructions:
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How about a picture so people aren't guessing?
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Is there a spacer or two below the stem you can take out? I usually try to get no more than 5 mm of stem height above the steerer -- 1/2" (12 mm) sounds too high.
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Originally Posted by cougarkite
Website says it's ''threadless alloy". The steerer comes to about the bottom of the top bolt of the two on the back of the stem if that makes sense...As I mentioned, it feels secure... What exactly would/could happen worse case scenario?
Stack thinner spacers under stem to get the stem top bolt to be gripping the steerer ..
and still leave a gap for your top cap to pull down into ,..
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There is a reason that you don’t see one-bolt stems on the market.
there have been but they were steel..

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Consider buying an Up Angled Stem.
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1) I agree with the others re the risk of using the stem you just got , but

2) What was the situation with the previous stem; was it's coverage the the steerer enough less so that both bolts were supported ? If so, just measure it and get a new stem with the same measurement ( and the rise angle you need) rather than try some hack that may kill you...and rather than getting a new bike

PS :a year so so ago got a really nice 2003 K2 MOD 4.0 road bike that had an original one bolt alloy stem...it was the first thing to go
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
there have been but they were steel..

And probably an M6 bolt.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Consider buying an Up Angled Stem.
Just ordered a 60mm 40 degree today so we'll see how that fits...
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Originally Posted by 3Roch
1) I agree with the others re the risk of using the stem you just got , but

2) What was the situation with the previous stem; was it's coverage the the steerer enough less so that both bolts were supported ? If so, just measure it and get a new stem with the same measurement ( and the rise angle you need) rather than try some hack that may kill you...and rather than getting a new bike

PS :a year so so ago got a really nice 2003 K2 MOD 4.0 road bike that had an original one bolt alloy stem...it was the first thing to go
Yeah that's what I should have done but I honestly didn't even think of it...this is my first bike with this type of setup so everything's a learning curve...
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
Is there a spacer or two below the stem you can take out? I usually try to get no more than 5 mm of stem height above the steerer -- 1/2" (12 mm) sounds too high.
Yeah if I take out the spacer below it, it'll bring the stem even with the steerer top so I think I'll do that and order a higher angle stem to see if that makes it better
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Originally Posted by dedhed
How about a picture so people aren't guessing?
just posted some sorry!
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
If you need the bars that high, then the bike does not fit you. Switch to an endurance geometry frame with a taller head tube. Please a side view photo of the entire bike as you have it now?
I think the bike fits fine...Got a size L and I'm 6'. Just rather be biking pretty upright due to back issues. Also posted a picture!
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
Is there a spacer or two below the stem you can take out? I usually try to get no more than 5 mm of stem height above the steerer -- 1/2" (12 mm) sounds too high.
Actually I just took out the spacer below and although they look pretty even, I think the steerer is ever so slightly higher and wont allow me to get pressure down when tightening cap screw and thus leaving my fork a bit loose so looks like I need to switch out some spacers ...
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I bought a BBB BHP 21 stem raiser, & took out the star nut, there are others that clamp on the outside that use the star nut as it sits ,,
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