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Silca wax 'boiler bag'
Looking at Silca's chain wax, they advertise that it comes in a 'convenient stovetop boiler bag', and you can just put the chain in the bag in hot water on the stove. Mostly I've heard of people using crock pots.
Anybody try out this stovetop method? Is the bag sturdy enough to really last? Or does it eventually wear out and you need to step up to a crockpot anyway? Or, could you just migrate to gallon ziploc bags and replace whenever necessary?
Anybody try out this stovetop method? Is the bag sturdy enough to really last? Or does it eventually wear out and you need to step up to a crockpot anyway? Or, could you just migrate to gallon ziploc bags and replace whenever necessary?
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Looking at Silca's chain wax, they advertise that it comes in a 'convenient stovetop boiler bag', and you can just put the chain in the bag in hot water on the stove. Mostly I've heard of people using crock pots.
Anybody try out this stovetop method? Is the bag sturdy enough to really last? Or does it eventually wear out and you need to step up to a crockpot anyway? Or, could you just migrate to gallon ziploc bags and replace whenever necessary?
Anybody try out this stovetop method? Is the bag sturdy enough to really last? Or does it eventually wear out and you need to step up to a crockpot anyway? Or, could you just migrate to gallon ziploc bags and replace whenever necessary?
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Generally I cook the chain in the crockpot where it gets well beyond 220 deg F. Hot enough to boil off whatever moisture or solvent still on the chain. If you do sous vide it might not get not enough to do that.
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I got a wax heater off Amazon (hair removal type), originally for waxing accordions but it works better on bike chains.
It's got a digital readout so you just set it for 92 (centigrade) and put the chain on top of the hard wax and leave it for 40 mins.
500cc capacity and that turns out to be exactly enough for 1 chain.
"Guckmall wax heater" or "Wax Heater WD-001D" will find it: https://www.amazon.com/Guckmall-Kit%...ct_top?ie=UTF8
Shows out of stock on Amazon but anything similar works.
It's got a digital readout so you just set it for 92 (centigrade) and put the chain on top of the hard wax and leave it for 40 mins.
500cc capacity and that turns out to be exactly enough for 1 chain.
"Guckmall wax heater" or "Wax Heater WD-001D" will find it: https://www.amazon.com/Guckmall-Kit%...ct_top?ie=UTF8
Shows out of stock on Amazon but anything similar works.
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Looking at Silca's chain wax, they advertise that it comes in a 'convenient stovetop boiler bag', and you can just put the chain in the bag in hot water on the stove. Mostly I've heard of people using crock pots.
Anybody try out this stovetop method? Is the bag sturdy enough to really last? Or does it eventually wear out and you need to step up to a crockpot anyway? Or, could you just migrate to gallon ziploc bags and replace whenever necessary?
Anybody try out this stovetop method? Is the bag sturdy enough to really last? Or does it eventually wear out and you need to step up to a crockpot anyway? Or, could you just migrate to gallon ziploc bags and replace whenever necessary?
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I use a pot. It cost $6.
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I've seen the 'boiler bag' method used on youtube but much prefer a dedicated 'crock pot'...they are relatively inexpensive and much easier to use.
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the world's fastest, most lubricous additive, nano-scale Tungsten Di-Sulfide. NanoPlatelet WS2 has less than 1/3 the dynamic coefficient of friction of chemicals found in other bike chain lubricant on the market.
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I think you’ll be surprised on how quickly you run through wax doing the hot wax process. A lot of wax ends up on the outside of the chain that is just wasted. It doesn’t run off when you pull it out of the hot melt because it hardens quickly due to the low melt point. I can’t say for sure how much wax is on the chain when it comes out of the melt but I would estimate that about 2/3 of the weight isn’t doing any lubrication on the outside of the chain and just falls off during use.
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OK good to know
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I think you’ll be surprised on how quickly you run through wax doing the hot wax process. A lot of wax ends up on the outside of the chain that is just wasted. It doesn’t run off when you pull it out of the hot melt because it hardens quickly due to the low melt point. I can’t say for sure how much wax is on the chain when it comes out of the melt but I would estimate that about 2/3 of the weight isn’t doing any lubrication on the outside of the chain and just falls off during use.
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good find. I liked it so much I grabbed another package from Amazon for the discounted price.
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I found that after my chains dried I just held them over the crock pot and wiggled them around and most of the dried wax fell back in the pot. I also put a piece of cardboard under the chain after I put it back on the bike and a few more bits fell off when spinning the crank. I would say I was able to save the majority of the wax from the outside of the chains.
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silly for you maybe but I have no issues with it. I will say after my first ride it was 100% worth it to me. We all have different things that make us feel warm and fuzzy no doubt. hell for me $30 was worth it just for how cool it looks all melted up....
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You are talking to someone who has no problem spending money on bicycles…I have 4 bikes with Paul Klampers on them, 8 bikes with either Phil Wood hubs or White Industries or Pauls (including a rare Paul RHub), titanium bikes with Moots or Dean house stems and seat posts, etc. I just find spending a lot of money on chains or chain lubricants to be chasing good money after bad.
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I found that after my chains dried I just held them over the crock pot and wiggled them around and most of the dried wax fell back in the pot. I also put a piece of cardboard under the chain after I put it back on the bike and a few more bits fell off when spinning the crank. I would say I was able to save the majority of the wax from the outside of the chains.
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You are talking to someone who has no problem spending money on bicycles…I have 4 bikes with Paul Klampers on them, 8 bikes with either Phil Wood hubs or White Industries or Pauls (including a rare Paul RHub), titanium bikes with Moots or Dean house stems and seat posts, etc. I just find spending a lot of money on chains or chain lubricants to be chasing good money after bad.
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Or spend $4 per year with the same results. You are missing the point. Silca wants you to pay that extra $30 per year for very marginal returns.
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I used the bag for a year, and it worked fine, but using a cheap ($20) crockpot is MUCH easier, and eliminated the possibility of an oops moment.
FWIW, if you accidentally spill a bag of hot wax next to a sink, you will need to replace the trap.
FWIW, if you accidentally spill a bag of hot wax next to a sink, you will need to replace the trap.
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FWIW, I can eat a piece of beef at McDonalds for $0.99, or eat a piece of beef at a good steak house for $99.00. Both offer essentially the same nutritional value. I'm pretty happy I have the option to choose what my priorities are at any given meal.
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Not exactly the same results. Many of us do appreciate marginal performance gains, longer drive train life, and no grease stains.
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FWIW, I can eat a piece of beef at McDonalds for $0.99, or eat a piece of beef at a good steak house for $99.00. Both offer essentially the same nutritional value. I'm pretty happy I have the option to choose what my priorities are at any given meal.
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I really doubt you would get much more than very marginal performance gains when using the Silca wax vs Gulf paraffin wax. You certainly won’t see any longer drivetrain life nor grease stains when using Gulf wax vs the Silca. I don’t use oil but I also don’t mess with hot wax. Solvent wax works as well and is far easier to use..
With all that said, I'm glad you're happy with your Gulf paraffin wax.
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