A little lug porn
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A little lug porn
We argue all the time about the ultimate frame material. Truth is there are great bikes made from all sorts of materials. But putting all that aside for a moment, who can look at the lug work of a true artist/craftsman and not see the beauty?
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10-02-07, 08:48 PM
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It is a work of art, but at $350 a piece, that's pretty high, but I would still like to have a lugged bike someday. Not to ride that much, just to have, like a collector.
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10-02-07, 08:53 PM
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10-02-07, 09:05 PM
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As for having a lugged bike and not riding it, well that would be a sin. I hope you never do that.
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Great links. Check out the elegantly straight forward work of Tom Kellogg. He is (one of) the original designers of Merlin titanium frames. My bike even has his name on the left chain stay.
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My word that's nice Lugged steel forever 
Lugged steel forever
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Lugged steel is a work of minimalist art. My Mondonico has the tiny AM logo imbedded in seat tube lug. Hardly visible. Fancier lugs, while true works of craftsmanship, don't do it for me. Understated elegance does not need to shout out. Those who appreciate it will know it is there. As will the builder.
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Some of those are truly hideous. case in point:
https://www.bikelugs.com/gallery/sado...bster08_fs.jpg
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https://www.bikelugs.com/gallery/sado...bster08_fs.jpg
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Some of those are truly hideous. case in point:
https://www.bikelugs.com/gallery/sado...bster08_fs.jpg
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Certain lugs can be used for positive marque identification:
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I like Victorian houses, fancy inlays on guitars, and fancy lug work. My heart's a 'flutter! Tks. BluesDawg. You've brought a bright spot to a dreary afternoon at work.
10-03-07, 01:00 PM
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I never saw a lugged frame I didn't like.
My vintage Trek lugged frames ride great, steel is real!
My vintage Trek lugged frames ride great, steel is real!
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I've ridden steel but I am afraid that I trust a good Mig welder to join the pipes together. Can remember back to the period when Raleigh were using straight gauge pipes- And using big thick lugs for the critical angles and joining of pipes. The stuff holding the pipes to the lugs was Glue and I went off any form of lug works after that.
Now give me a Mig weld done by an expert and I will be in raptures just looking at it. Every time I look at Lugs- all I can think of is Araldite (Epoxy Resin) holding the bike together.
Now give me a Mig weld done by an expert and I will be in raptures just looking at it. Every time I look at Lugs- all I can think of is Araldite (Epoxy Resin) holding the bike together.
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Some of those are truly hideous. case in point:
https://www.bikelugs.com/gallery/sado...bster08_fs.jpg
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glorius lugs.jpg
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I've ridden steel but I am afraid that I trust a good Mig welder to join the pipes together. Can remember back to the period when Raleigh were using straight gauge pipes- And using big thick lugs for the critical angles and joining of pipes. The stuff holding the pipes to the lugs was Glue and I went off any form of lug works after that.
Now give me a Mig weld done by an expert and I will be in raptures just looking at it. Every time I look at Lugs- all I can think of is Araldite (Epoxy Resin) holding the bike together.
Now give me a Mig weld done by an expert and I will be in raptures just looking at it. Every time I look at Lugs- all I can think of is Araldite (Epoxy Resin) holding the bike together.
I'm torn between pitying you and laughing hysterically. Crap is crap, but we're not talking about crap here.
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We argue all the time about the ultimate frame material. Truth is there are great bikes made from all sorts of materials. But putting all that aside for a moment, who can look at the lug work of a true artist/craftsman and not see the beauty?
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I've ridden steel but I am afraid that I trust a good Mig welder to join the pipes together. Can remember back to the period when Raleigh were using straight gauge pipes- And using big thick lugs for the critical angles and joining of pipes. The stuff holding the pipes to the lugs was Glue and I went off any form of lug works after that.
Now give me a Mig weld done by an expert and I will be in raptures just looking at it. Every time I look at Lugs- all I can think of is Araldite (Epoxy Resin) holding the bike together.
Now give me a Mig weld done by an expert and I will be in raptures just looking at it. Every time I look at Lugs- all I can think of is Araldite (Epoxy Resin) holding the bike together.
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I've ridden steel but I am afraid that I trust a good Mig welder to join the pipes together. Can remember back to the period when Raleigh were using straight gauge pipes- ... The stuff holding the pipes to the lugs was Glue and I went off any form of lug works after that.
Now give me a Mig weld done by an expert and I will be in raptures just looking at it. Every time I look at Lugs- all I can think of is Araldite (Epoxy Resin) holding the bike together.
Now give me a Mig weld done by an expert and I will be in raptures just looking at it. Every time I look at Lugs- all I can think of is Araldite (Epoxy Resin) holding the bike together.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
10-03-07, 08:56 PM
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OMG! I think that my bike is on that site! - I have a custom Peter Mooney frame, look at the photos of the Peter Mooney work on the site, and then compare them to https://www.peter-mooney.com/gall5.htm . My bike is the red and black frame. Those pics were taken before the bike was built up, it now has 3000 miles on it and is still as sweet.
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I've ridden steel but I am afraid that I trust a good Mig welder to join the pipes together. Can remember back to the period when Raleigh were using straight gauge pipes- And using big thick lugs for the critical angles and joining of pipes. The stuff holding the pipes to the lugs was Glue and I went off any form of lug works after that.
Now give me a Mig weld done by an expert and I will be in raptures just looking at it. Every time I look at Lugs- all I can think of is Araldite (Epoxy Resin) holding the bike together.
Now give me a Mig weld done by an expert and I will be in raptures just looking at it. Every time I look at Lugs- all I can think of is Araldite (Epoxy Resin) holding the bike together.
Best I can tell, those were good bikes, not prone to failure. Trek made an awful lot of bonded aluminum bikes too. Not works of art, but good bikes.
I happen to work at a place where aluminum, titanium and composite structures are bonded using epoxy and other types of adhesives. When these structures are bonded together, they don't come apart. Which is good, since they are control surfaces and other major structures for commercial and military airplanes.
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Check out https://sourwalled.com/html/mooney.html
Some shots of the bike, and details of the component set, although most of the photos are close-ups, I am a sucker for Lug Porn :-o
I believe that Peter cut the lugs by hand to that shape, and I know of one other bike that he did using the fleur-de-lys style of lug, but it is very different from mine....
Some shots of the bike, and details of the component set, although most of the photos are close-ups, I am a sucker for Lug Porn :-o
I believe that Peter cut the lugs by hand to that shape, and I know of one other bike that he did using the fleur-de-lys style of lug, but it is very different from mine....