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Old 05-11-19, 11:01 AM
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Campagnolo Noir

Mounted on an Atala at my LBS. Anyone have other vintage black Campagnolo?



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Originally Posted by djkashuba
Mounted on an Atala at my LBS. Anyone have other vintage black Campagnolo?



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Maybe, probably done after the fact.
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Yeah, likely aftermarket. At one time it was pretty common to take your components apart and get them anodized.

I'm not aware of Campagnolo ever selling NR/SR/GS or any other brakes in black during the classic era. Dura Ace, Galli, Zeus, Modolo and others did black. Even Universal did black. Campy was too cool to bother.
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When Super Record was introduced, the catalog illustration presented the crankset with black chainrings.
We never saw those in production units.
It did give one of my co-workers an idea and he had a set of caliper arms, shift levers and crank arms black anodized, then took the arms to Art Stump and had him do his milling efforts on them.
Very cool looking.
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IIRC- There was a somewhat awkward reason for Campagnolo not following through with the black anodized chainrings and other parts...
but I couldn't find the reference immediately. I remember some brake sets coming to the shop (mid 70's) in black still boxed, but maybe they had been intercepted after they came off the boat. These have only been in my possession for 5 years, so I can't comment on their provenance. I will say that they seem exactly like the others I remember. If they were anodized by various people, I think there would be lots of variation. Even now jet black matte anodizing is not too to easy to achieve in a home shop.
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I've seen black Nouvo Record rd, but only one. A local pastor, and bike geek had it. I didn't check for dating, the piece was well worn and faded.
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Not black, but I do have a Record DS crankarm in blue. Anyone have a NDS to match?
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Originally Posted by Last ride 76
IIRC- There was a somewhat awkward reason for Campagnolo not following through with the black anodized chainrings and other parts...
but I couldn't find the reference immediately. I remember some brake sets coming to the shop (mid 70's) in black still boxed, but maybe they had been intercepted after they came off the boat. These have only been in my possession for 5 years, so I can't comment on their provenance. I will say that they seem exactly like the others I remember. If they were anodized by various people, I think there would be lots of variation. Even now jet black matte anodizing is not too to easy to achieve in a home shop.
In the 70's in Southern California, plenty of aircraft centric places to hand it to, $25 was the minimum, with new parts, easy, the surfaces are uniform and easy to clean.

At the Paris bicycle trade show, there were a number of makers showing off Black chainrings, Sugino, SR, TA... Campagnolo faked them out the year before.
Trouble with black anodized chainrings was that they eventually wore and revealed raw aluminum.
The magazine reports stated on some they were black through and through... yeah, sure.
All Styling.

Today, it is hard to not find Black or carbon fibre "black" on the new stuff.... kind of boring. Black frames with color accents...
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black record parts

I bought a well used Teledyne Titan about 2 months ago and it came with black anodized record brake calipers and levers, and black record crank and chainrings. Everything else campy record is as normal. I'm waiting for a headset and then I will be able to rebuild the bike and will post a few pics.
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Originally Posted by repechage
In the 70's in Southern California, plenty of aircraft centric places to hand it to, $25 was the minimum, with new parts, easy, the surfaces are uniform and easy to clean.

At the Paris bicycle trade show, there were a number of makers showing off Black chainrings, Sugino, SR, TA... Campagnolo faked them out the year before.
Trouble with black anodized chainrings was that they eventually wore and revealed raw aluminum.
The magazine reports stated on some they were black through and through... yeah, sure.
All Styling.
)
Today, it is hard to not find Black or carbon fibre "black" on the new stuff.... kind of boring. Black frames with color accents...
That was what I heard, that r they were claiming it to be a treatment that altered (strengthened) the composition of the aluminum, all the way through, not just anodizing a a thin layer. Was that the ergal vs dural thing (or maybe that was a different marketing scheme)
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1st Gen Super Record RD

Originally Posted by Mr. 66
I've seen black Nouvo Record rd, but only one. A local pastor, and bike geek had it. I didn't check for dating, the piece was well worn and faded.

Is this what you are referring to, or something completely different?
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What about the record shifter with black/blue paint fillings? Were those oem or custom painted?


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Never seen black Campagnolo, only graphite finish.
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Campagnolo Noir
Are they french?
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Originally Posted by malcala622
What about the record shifter with black/blue paint fillings? Were those oem or custom painted?
Probably DIY like mine.

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Detailing campy parts

Originally Posted by retrofit
Probably DIY like mine.


Looks great!


+! For DIY.

It takes a bit of practice (otherwise known as fooling around). Start with less paint, rather than more, as it tends to spread itself out. Keep wiping off the excess paint with a clean rag held taut over a fingertip as you work. If at first you don't succeed, clean up with mineral spirits, DRY it and try again. Deeper patterns, and/or sharp edges, are usually easiest to start with. I am only so good (steady) with a brush. The secret is in having complete coverage, (without being sloppy) and then carefully wiping away any paint that is outside the intended area.

Letting it dry a bit so it doesn't run or bleed often helps.
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