Aero Levers for small-handed person?
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Yup, if she's not concerned about riding in the drops (and thus being able to reach the levers from there), then these SLR-era levers are an excellent choice! The later Shimano BL-R400 and BL-R600 levers, which are the exact same just branded "SHIMANO" on the lever blade, are also great. Early '90s Shimano 105, RX100, and various Exage levers all have the same body shape/size/thickness, just different trimmings and color or surface treatment on the brake lever blade. A great time for brake levers, eh?
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@The Golden Boy, @Salamandrine, @CycleryNorth81, @ascherer, @La Brea Bike and @RiddleOfSteel are correct. Find modern levers that have shims or are designed for smaller hands.
Trying to find proportional components as a shorter person is a headache, to say the least. My hands are probably similar in length; the black TRP levers (with shims) are the ones you want. The price doubles when you want gum hoods and aero holes. Though they're expensive compared to the rest of the components, the return on the investment is amazing. Modern ergonomics are light years better than any vintage design. Another thing to consider are bars with a short hook and aggressive sweep. Women are generally longer in the legs and shorter above the waist. Function > Form
Trying to find proportional components as a shorter person is a headache, to say the least. My hands are probably similar in length; the black TRP levers (with shims) are the ones you want. The price doubles when you want gum hoods and aero holes. Though they're expensive compared to the rest of the components, the return on the investment is amazing. Modern ergonomics are light years better than any vintage design. Another thing to consider are bars with a short hook and aggressive sweep. Women are generally longer in the legs and shorter above the waist. Function > Form
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@The Golden Boy, @Salamandrine, @CycleryNorth81, @ascherer, @La Brea Bike and @RiddleOfSteel are correct. Find modern levers that have shims or are designed for smaller hands.
Trying to find proportional components as a shorter person is a headache, to say the least. My hands are probably similar in length; the black TRP levers (with shims) are the ones you want. The price doubles when you want gum hoods and aero holes. Though they're expensive compared to the rest of the components, the return on the investment is amazing. Modern ergonomics are light years better than any vintage design. Another thing to consider are bars with a short hook and aggressive sweep. Women are generally longer in the legs and shorter above the waist. Function > Form
Trying to find proportional components as a shorter person is a headache, to say the least. My hands are probably similar in length; the black TRP levers (with shims) are the ones you want. The price doubles when you want gum hoods and aero holes. Though they're expensive compared to the rest of the components, the return on the investment is amazing. Modern ergonomics are light years better than any vintage design. Another thing to consider are bars with a short hook and aggressive sweep. Women are generally longer in the legs and shorter above the waist. Function > Form
IMO- the old slotted non-aero levers are just so cool looking, but after using the RRL levers- you just want levers to be like that. In my case, my concept of "Form" changed. (not that it doesn't change on a daily basis anyway). What used to be the fugliest, awkwardest, bad idea design ever started becoming intriguing and then actually pretty cool.
FWIW- I also have the IRD ZST drilled levers- they're fine- but IMO- the RRLs are much much nicer.
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Thanks, everyone for the massive overstimulation on this one! I knew I would get some great perspective here! MGopack42, Thanks very much for the offer, it was very generous.
We'll mull it over here and definitely go with something more compact. I'll let you know what happens!
We'll mull it over here and definitely go with something more compact. I'll let you know what happens!
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This is why I am not in favor of setting up bikes to be most comfortable in the hoods. I set my bikes up to be comfortable and ridable all day from the drops. Only then (and after I have set the brakes up to be an easy reach from the drops do I start looking at the hood positions. (When I was being introduced to racing back in a distant era, the club vets stressed that as well as stressing that when riding conditions or riders around us got iffy or our attention span was wandering, we owed it to ourselves to be in the drops.)
I realize that small people have challenges finding bikes that even allow the choice of the drops as the number one place to be.
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I want to emphasize a point not emphasized enough here. Part of the problem is the calipers. Those have less leverage than all other calipers. Use dual-pivot brakes!
An alternative to consider, to supplement -- not replace -- the calipers, is to give up on drop bars and use upright bars. If the rider doesn't want to lean down much, then she doesn't need drop bars.
An alternative to consider, to supplement -- not replace -- the calipers, is to give up on drop bars and use upright bars. If the rider doesn't want to lean down much, then she doesn't need drop bars.
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I want to emphasize a point not emphasized enough here. Part of the problem is the calipers. Those have less leverage than all other calipers. Use dual-pivot brakes!
An alternative to consider, to supplement -- not replace -- the calipers, is to give up on drop bars and use upright bars. If the rider doesn't want to lean down much, then she doesn't need drop bars.
An alternative to consider, to supplement -- not replace -- the calipers, is to give up on drop bars and use upright bars. If the rider doesn't want to lean down much, then she doesn't need drop bars.
Yeah, dual pivots + modern levers will work. However, putting the original center pull brakes back on, and using modern levers designed for hood braking will also work. Center pulls were the original dual pivot, and if used with good pads (koolstop) they will have similar braking power.
Upright bars are worthy of consideration. I wonder why a lot of modern riders bother with drops, since they never leave the hoods.
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Center pulls would be an improvement but not as big an improvement as dual-pivot side pull brakes.
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Yet, if the rider truly wants to never leave the hoods, I do agree that the wise choice is to go with modern dual pivots.
Digressing: CP and dual pivots are mechanically similar anyway. Both types are dual pivot, though the latter I believe have slightly higher MA on average. Anyone have comparative mechanical advantage numbers? When dual pivots first came out I was working in an LBS, and my first reaction was that they felt just like MAFAC brakes. I saw it at the time mostly as a way to reintroduce CP brakes, but to make them look like something new and cool, and CP most certainly were not cool circa 1990ish.
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