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Old 04-12-20, 04:39 PM
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Rare beast indeed, have a look

This is a Bertrand bicycle in Columbus SP
full Campy group with pedals and hubs,
a garage queen, pictures are as found, not washed.
she is clean! Spent most of her life in a garage
Bertrand had a go at making bikes for a short while.
to put this on perpective, Marinonis here are plentyfull, this in this condition is a unicorn
250$ CAN. Worth the 2 hour drive
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Old 04-12-20, 04:49 PM
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there was a Bertrand cycle maker in Britain at one time -

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/how-old-is-it.166645/


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Old 04-12-20, 05:20 PM
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Gorgeous. Where did you find it?
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Old 04-12-20, 06:02 PM
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If you are familiar with the province, found it in Granby 1 hour south of montreal, marketplace ad, to which I promptly replied, I offered 250. The bike was advertised at 200.
you gotta be quick and.make.sure you secure the prize. When something good pops up, I offer more
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Old 04-12-20, 06:36 PM
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Happy to know I didn't miss it. Awesome catch though!
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Beautiful bike. Very nice find and a great deal at 250cdn. I'm in Toronto so I'm familiar with the brand...but I doubt most have heard of the small scale builder in Quebec.
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Old 04-12-20, 07:40 PM
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Every biker here knows Gardin , trust me
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Old 04-12-20, 08:10 PM
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Very nice bike. Interesting history of Bertrand cycles. Later bikes manufactured by Marinoni.
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Bicycle Guide magazine, April 1987 had a lengthy section on Bertrand from page 34 to page 39 including a test of the Neca Can-Am model, in case you are interested. Yours is a lovely bike with its Campy Triomphe gruppo and a real deal, definitely worth the 2 hour drive.
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Good ol' Triomphe.

Keep keep your eye out for a Victory rear derailleur.
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Triomphe vs Victory RDs

reissue59 Nice bike. Columbus SP is a good choice for that size frame. I especially like the font Bertrand used.

The red and yellow colors match my early 80's DeRosa that I built up at the beginning of the year.



Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
Good ol' Triomphe.

Keep keep your eye out for a Victory rear derailleur.
There's not that much difference between Triomphe and Victory RDs. The Victory quality is a little better. They both have the same Geometry as the Campy 4001 Super Record, also the 980 and 990 RDs. They had a 28T published rear sprocket capacity but don't believe everything....

Early Triomphe RD



Early Victory RD



Campy SR RD with 13-32T 7 speed FW with 50-38T chainrings.



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There's not that much difference between Triomphe and Victory RDs. The Victory quality is a little better.
I'd say "a lot" ... and looks waaay better, too.

The rest of the group is a push.
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Old 04-13-20, 06:01 AM
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I first met Gilles Bertrand in the early 1970s, though I haven't seen him since the late 1990s. We always used to visit his little shop on Rue Eddy in Hull, when we were in the capital region for a race. The subject bicycle appears to be circa 1985-1987 and his lower end road frame based on the lack of chrome and the presence of dropout eyelets. While they are relatively rare, I wouldn't call them a unicorn. The vast majority of the guys from the 1980s Southern Ontario and Western Quebec racing scene would know the brand, courtesy of the team that the shop sponsored. I had a late 1980s Bertrand 3000 model with Columbus SLX

They were nice frames but one marketing faux pas was that Gilles eschewed embossing the logo into fittings. Inside he used decals. When cyclists were spending $1000+ CDN on a new bicycle, they didn't expect to see decals in place of embossing, on places like the fork crown and stay caps. Many felt that this cheapened the appearance of the bicycles. Had an investment been made in embossed fittings, cyclists would have been more receptive to the brand and it might have had a wider following.
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