Best Miyata tourer?

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07-08-19, 06:12 PM

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Thanks. Maybe. The sizes are metric according to this (year?) catalog. But off course all sizes can be measured with any unit, and they will always match at whole numbers somewhere. Hasn't Japan been a metric country for a long time?

Your welcome! No maybe about it. If you search for a 1985 Miyata catalog, you'll see the mid eighties (1985) 610 came in inch sizes. Some of the other bikes I mentioned, Schwinn, Centurion, Trek, came in inch as well as cm sizes, depending on the model. However, the point of my post was a response to your question whether the Miyatas were measured C/C (center to center) or C/T (center to top). I know that my 610 is 21" and measured C/T. I have several Japan Schwinns and Centurions, and a few USA Treks, and all are measured C/T. Inch or cm measurement makes no difference.
Yes, Japan has been a metric country for a long time, but that has nothing to do with it.

07-08-19, 06:24 PM

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The Miyata 1000 has proprietry tubing made by Miyata and is Triple butted ....

if you were to have a custom frame build with similar specced tubing, expect to pay well over $3000 USD for just the frame

if I compare it to my previous touring bike (a Surly LHT), the Miyata is a much faster bike and even with heavy loaded panniers, it handles superbly and you always feel that you are riding a race bike

It can fit 38mm tyres with mudguards, has 3 waterbottles, and you can fit front and rear racks etc .... it has 7 layers of paint etc etc

Not necessarily correct. The frameset tubing used on the 1000, and also the 610 was improved through the years. Earliest were CrMo, then double-butted, and later triple-butted.

And yes, don't forget the Miyata-build Univega touring bikes! The Univega Specialissma was the near-equal of the 1000, and the Gran Tourismo was on par with the Miyata 610.

07-02-20, 10:05 PM

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Hi, re: the 1000 being regarded STILL as the best touring bike off the shelf is a statement I'd have to disagree with. I've taken a look at only some of the TOTL newer tourers and they are really something. For the type of money the 1000 sells for these days I would much rather put it into a modern touring bike. There are two 1000's locally for sale and no takers as of yet, one in my size. There is no way I'm spending that kind of money on a bike like that. If a 1k came my way for a song, no problem. I'm indifferent about the 1k. It's nice, but so are a lot of other bikes.