Araya Road Bicycle
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Araya Road Bicycle
Posting this for posterity. I've no idea who the guy is. An Araya in what looks like a 25" frame and 27" wheels. Anyone make out the tubing sticker? It has Suntour ARX for shifting. It looks like it had been sitting outside for a while although the guy claims nothing is seized on it. I doubt he's checked the BB cups.
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My Araya Road 823. Tubing sticker on the frame says Araya butted tubing - see second picture - while the steerer tube has a Tange mark on it.
The serial number for the bike will be on the NDS seat tube just above the BB.
Cheers.
Brad
The serial number for the bike will be on the NDS seat tube just above the BB.
Cheers.
Brad
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Well, at least it doesn't appear to be the infamous Araya 631. Looks to be circa 1982-1986.
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https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...31-tubing.html
Araya did market bicycles under their own name in Japan, so I supsect that the frame was manufctured for Vista by Araya. I'd guess that ARY= Araya in the ARYL963661 serial number.
The question then becomes whether the tubing is actually manufactured by Araya or simply rebadged Tange or Infinity, like some manufacturers did. I have seen other Vista with Araya tubing, though not 631. Given that Araya extruded their own rims, it would not be much of a stretch for them to extrude their own tubing, though I have nothing to substantiate this. Most sources indicate that Miyata was the only Japanese manufacturer to produce their own tubing.
Yes, it is true that some manufacturers hung Shimano 600 on a lesser grade frame, as it was the components that attracted most customers. There was a Vista Silver Shadow in the late 1970s that used Shimano 600 derailleurs, hubs and brakes, but not the crankset. It had a double butted frame. Given the 600 crankset and 700C wheels, it seems likely that your model is a newer and slightly higher version of the Silver Shadow. In which case, it is probably a CrMo butted tubeset.
The bicycle appears early 1980s. I suspect the marketers were likley counting on the similarity of Araya 631 to Reynolds 531, to lure some customers. During the same period, Fuji had a butted CrMo set, which I believe was 331. Some of the Araya brand bicycles marketed during this period did use CrMo, butted tubing, so the possibility is defintely there, but you won't know for sure until you get the bicycle and have a good look at the tubing decal. If it's inconclusive, the seat post diameter is a good indicator of tubing grade.
The question then becomes whether the tubing is actually manufactured by Araya or simply rebadged Tange or Infinity, like some manufacturers did. I have seen other Vista with Araya tubing, though not 631. Given that Araya extruded their own rims, it would not be much of a stretch for them to extrude their own tubing, though I have nothing to substantiate this. Most sources indicate that Miyata was the only Japanese manufacturer to produce their own tubing.
Yes, it is true that some manufacturers hung Shimano 600 on a lesser grade frame, as it was the components that attracted most customers. There was a Vista Silver Shadow in the late 1970s that used Shimano 600 derailleurs, hubs and brakes, but not the crankset. It had a double butted frame. Given the 600 crankset and 700C wheels, it seems likely that your model is a newer and slightly higher version of the Silver Shadow. In which case, it is probably a CrMo butted tubeset.
The bicycle appears early 1980s. I suspect the marketers were likley counting on the similarity of Araya 631 to Reynolds 531, to lure some customers. During the same period, Fuji had a butted CrMo set, which I believe was 331. Some of the Araya brand bicycles marketed during this period did use CrMo, butted tubing, so the possibility is defintely there, but you won't know for sure until you get the bicycle and have a good look at the tubing decal. If it's inconclusive, the seat post diameter is a good indicator of tubing grade.
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Ok Brad, thanks for the input and photo for your bike. The subject bike would fit but I have no use for it and could probably buy it for $70 or so. If it were a lot closer I'd go have a look and take some pictures for the thread. I can write the guy and ask more about it but to ask him to take the time to catalog all the markings with no interest in buying is a little wasteful.