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Old 07-10-19, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
Garmin has somewhat recently turned off the option to not send your data to Connect.
To get heat map data, presumably.

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It's been thing like two years since I've added a device, but it wouldn't shock me if there was a period when they forced you to connect a phone before proceeding.
Why would they do this?

Other than one person saying it, there is no evidence they actually ever did such a thing.
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Forcing you to use a phone seems like a support nightmare, I doubt they will ever do that.
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Originally Posted by unterhausen
Forcing you to use a phone seems like a support nightmare, I doubt they will ever do that.
It seemingly works OK for Wahoo. The Elemnt, Bolt and Roam all require a iOS or Android app on a smartphone to activate and configure the device, it's done thru the BT connection. Once the devices are up and running, you no longer need to keep it paired to a phone, they will run independently, unless you desire to upload completed rides and download pre-prepared routes. Then you need that phone.
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Old 07-10-19, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
It seemingly works OK for Wahoo. The Elemnt, Bolt and Roam all require a iOS or Android app on a smartphone to activate and configure the device, it's done thru the BT connection. Once the devices are up and running, you no longer need to keep it paired to a phone, they will run independently, unless you desire to upload completed rides and download pre-prepared routes. Then you need that phone.
Actually, Wahoos can sync rides and routes on their own if they're on a WiFi network. They only need to be tethered to the phone to use the cellular network. You do of course need the phone app to initially configure WiFi access (SSID, password, etc), and I'm not sure if it can remember more than one network without using the app to switch between them.
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Old 07-10-19, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Originally Posted by unterhausen
Forcing you to use a phone seems like a support nightmare, I doubt they will ever do that.
It seemingly works OK for Wahoo. The Elemnt, Bolt and Roam all require a iOS or Android app on a smartphone to activate and configure the device, it's done thru the BT connection. Once the devices are up and running, you no longer need to keep it paired to a phone, they will run independently, unless you desire to upload completed rides and download pre-prepared routes. Then you need that phone.
It would be a support "nightmare" for Garmin. There's a long-standing practice of not needing a phone for their devices.

Can the Wahoo units be usefully plugged into a non-smartphone computer?
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Originally Posted by njkayaker
Can the Wahoo units be usefully plugged into a non-smartphone computer?
Depends on your definition of useful. You can see the file system and transfer route and ride files using your computer's native USB file handling methods (i.e Explorer or Finder windows), but there are no PC/Mac helper apps in the Garmin sense, that I'm aware of.
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Originally Posted by Metaluna
Depends on your definition of useful. You can see the file system and transfer route and ride files using your computer's native USB file handling methods (i.e Explorer or Finder windows), but there are no PC/Mac helper apps in the Garmin sense, that I'm aware of.
That's useful.
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Originally Posted by njkayaker
To get heat map data, presumably.


Why would they do this?

Other than one person saying it, there is no evidence they actually ever did such a thing.
Why would they ever ship anything with obvious, frustrating bugs?

I find it easier to believe that there was temporarily a big affecting setup of a particular device, than that we're being lied to.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
Why would they ever ship anything with obvious, frustrating bugs?
I have no idea what bugs you are talking about that were "obvious".

The "requiring a smartphone" behavior would be more than "obvious".

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I find it easier to believe that there was temporarily a big affecting setup of a particular device, than that we're being lied to.
I don't know what pdlamb's issue was (but I don't think he's lying).

What I do know: 1- the devices are not supposed to work that way; 2- if it was real behavior (due to a bug or intent), it's likely that it would have been reported (in the Garmin forums) by somebody.

Garmin doesn't release firmware very often and there's typically a fairly-long period between when firmware is released.

It seems much more likely that either pdlamb's device is very unusual or he was confused about what was going on. (So, what one could believe isn't limited to being "a bug" or "being lied to".)

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Old 07-10-19, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
Hiking this weekend, my phone fell out of my pocket. My Garmin watch told me it lost the BT connection as I stated to walk away. That's why I didn't have to buy a new phone.
https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/2...8-a58d5fa70320
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Garmin has somewhat recently turned off the option to not send your data to Connect.
Their data. It's their data. They just let you look at it.
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