Sage advice, or lunacy? Hmmm...
01-31-24, 09:42 PM
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02-01-24, 04:31 AM
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Why would it be banned?
I think BITD it was posted too much and became an annoyance. I think it's the same for a Rick Roll.
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02-01-24, 06:23 AM
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I read it and I thought it was just another page filling, click getting editorial fluff piece.
02-01-24, 10:06 AM
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What I have found with carbon frames and forks is that they are limiting. Not much I can do to modify a carbon frame or fork to fit a different size hub OLD. I can remove the rear triangle on a lugged steel frame and change it to add tire clearance. Not something that can easily be done with carbon. I can change the rear drop out to horizontal on a steel frame, not so much with a carbon frame.
Yes, I have done all of the above with steel frames. To do the same with a carbon frame is major surgery and sometimes not possible. As I said, carbon frames are limiting.
Full disclosure, I have owned 3 carbon frames in the past and enjoyed them, but switched back to steel.
Yes, I have done all of the above with steel frames. To do the same with a carbon frame is major surgery and sometimes not possible. As I said, carbon frames are limiting.
Full disclosure, I have owned 3 carbon frames in the past and enjoyed them, but switched back to steel.
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02-01-24, 10:40 AM
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02-01-24, 10:42 AM
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Come to think of it, yeah, it might be great if all of those things were banned.
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02-01-24, 12:06 PM
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If it gets deleted, we'll find out why. Maybe people found the hipster butt cleavage or jerry curl mullet offensive. Who knows?
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02-01-24, 12:17 PM
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OK I guess you are maybe just very literal minded. It’s not really banned (or rather, I don’t think you would be banned for posting it). Not my post but my interpretation: It was a joke riffing off how bad it is / how bad it makes road cyclists look, even though I assume that in itself was the “joke” of the video.
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02-01-24, 12:23 PM
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One can hope ...
02-04-24, 10:41 PM
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Atlas Shrugged, I do the work myself. Learned to braze back in high school and after many decades decided to build a frame made to fit me and with tubing and features to my liking. Ended up designing an building 5 of them! Rattle can paint is good enough as they are all working bikes. Costs are minimal, well below the cost of a replacement frame from any material.
As for replacing a rear triangle or drop outs, it is not difficult, at least it isn't for me. Working with carbon sheets is much more difficult from what minimum knowledge I have about the process.
As for replacing a rear triangle or drop outs, it is not difficult, at least it isn't for me. Working with carbon sheets is much more difficult from what minimum knowledge I have about the process.
How many times in the last 5 years have you wanted to modify the OLD of a carbon bike? How many times have you wanted to modify the dropouts of a carbon bike?
Seriously, I am curious. What is the actual real life frequency for any of your concerns?
What a bonkers addition to a largely worthless thread topic.
02-07-24, 08:22 AM
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I say that more people should give good, modern steel a chance - not because it’s inherently better than carbon, but more that it’s different, with a set of properties that give it a different feel. Sure, steel is generally heavier and flexier than carbon, but it can also be smooth riding and whippy (read: fun).
But really, even as a metal bike enthusiast, with alu, Ti, and steel in my stable, I recognize that there are benefits to carbon that the other materials can’t easily match. Lighter than all but the lightest ti, often smoother riding than all but the best aluminum, etc. yes, speaking in broad generalizations, so don’t bite my head off here.
Try ‘‘em all (if you can these days), buy what you like. Just go out and ride!
But really, even as a metal bike enthusiast, with alu, Ti, and steel in my stable, I recognize that there are benefits to carbon that the other materials can’t easily match. Lighter than all but the lightest ti, often smoother riding than all but the best aluminum, etc. yes, speaking in broad generalizations, so don’t bite my head off here.
Try ‘‘em all (if you can these days), buy what you like. Just go out and ride!
02-07-24, 01:08 PM
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For real? Is there actually a bike frame made of titanium that weighs less than a Specialized Aethos (585 grams)?
I find that hard to believe. Very hard to believe.
I find that hard to believe. Very hard to believe.
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02-07-24, 02:03 PM
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As for other materials:
My entry level CAAD 8 gen 2 (Chinese made) came in around 1300g, which is 2x an Aethos, but there are probably entry level carbon frames that are pretty similar. The likely ride a lot better though
He didn't release the frame weight, but Rob English even has a stainless steel frame that was used as part of a <6kg build. Not sure how much power I'd put down on that, but it sounds fun.
02-07-24, 03:02 PM
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Sure, if you're going to your lightest possible, Tour-level frames, nothing can touch carbon. But for a typical midrange carbon frame that's what... 900g? Or your entry level carbon jobs that are 1000-1100g, that's within striking distance of the lightest titanium frames I've read about. Litespeed at one point produced a 2.2lbs job (or ~1kg), and I think the Merlin Extralight was close to that, as well. I think I read on one of the other forums that their Mosaic came in around 2.4lbs, as well. Just looking around, a Cannondale Synapse, in 56cm, was weighed in at 1,035g by Velo, or right around 2.3lbs, so pretty darn close. A slightly older review from 2019 has Bianchi Infinitos at 1100g (XE) and 1030g (for the CV).
02-07-24, 03:30 PM
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The lightest weight carbon is untouchable, but middleweight carbon (~1kg) isn't an unattainable weight by the lightest titanium or aluminum frames available. Of course, when you're comparing gram for gram, you're likely to give up more in stiffness and strength with metal than with carbon. A 1.1kg carbon frame would be considered a fairly stout endurance machine, whereas a 1.1kg ti or 1.2kg aluminum frame would be considered a featherweight climbing rig (for their particular materials).
Does that make my statement more amenable?
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