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Old 12-07-18, 02:55 PM
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Frame mounted Bike pump recommendation

Any recommendations for a frame mounted bike pump? I do not want to go the CO2 route. The issue I have is that you cannot seem to get enough air into the tires with these small hand pumps. Can someone recommend one that you can actually pump 100psi?
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Topeak Morph is popular, because it's like a mini floor pump.
You have a hose to the stem,
and the ground to push the plunger handle down against..

O;s Silca Impero Frame pumps you had to use both hands ,
try to not break off the stem,
but the stroke was longer, still 100 psi was Work to achieve..





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...I use a lot of the old Zefal HP pumps here. I have no trouble getting 100 psi in a road tyre with one. You need to set up your wheel and the pump in such a way that the pump head is supported against a tree or some other fixed object so the pumping motion does not wiggle the valve and tear the tube.
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+2 on both suggestions. I've carried Zefal HPXs for decades and recommend Topeak Master Blasters at the clinics I teach club members. Andy
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Topeak Master blaster is popular, because it's like a mini floor pump.
You have a hose to the stem,
and the ground to push the plunger handle down against..
The masterblaster doesn't have a hose. It's just an ordinary frame pump. I have three sizes for different frames and like it a lot. Maybe you're thinking of the morph
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Old 12-07-18, 03:50 PM
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My Topeak Turbo Morph G pump is a nice product, with a frame-mount bracket, that either attaches to the tubing using nylon wire ties, or to water bottle screw bosses.

It it has a hose, a gauge and it will pump up to 160 psi.
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I second the Topeak Morph pumps. I have the Morph Mini (no gauge). On my road bike it was mounted under my down tube. On my hybrid it is mounted on a seat stay.
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Originally Posted by wingless
My Topeak Turbo Morph G pump is a nice product, with a frame-mount bracket, that either attaches to the tubing using nylon wire ties, or to water bottle screw bosses.

It it has a hose, a gauge and it will pump up to 160 psi.
2nd https://www.amazon.com/Topeak-Turbo-.../dp/B000FIE4PO

The Turbo Morph G is big enough to get 38-622 up past 90 psi when replacing the tube, in a reasonable time. Not quite as fast as a home pump, but excellent performance for its size and mass.
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Blackburn made a frame fit pump , they no longer do , Zefal is about it .<br />got $$? new Silca frame fit pumps are up there in price.. [a post Italian ownership.]<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />...

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Originally Posted by kingston
The masterblaster doesn't have a hose. It's just an ordinary frame pump. I have three sizes for different frames and like it a lot. Maybe you're thinking of the morph
Correct, my mistake Morph it is.Andy
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Topeak Morph is popular, because it's like a mini floor pump.
You have a hose to the stem,
and the ground to push the plunger handle down against..

O;s Silca Impero Frame pumps you had to use both hands ,
try to not break off the stem,
but the stroke was longer, still 100 psi was Work to achieve..





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I liked the road morph for frame mount becuase it has a pressure gauge built in. Pumps up to 120psi no sweat. I recntly switched to mini morph. No gauge but fits in my pocket. Still has hose and foot pedal so pumping up to 100psi is easy.
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I've carried Road Morph, Mini Morph and Mountain Morph. (One at a time.) Thankfully, knock on wood, have only used them a few times. Like them much better than pumps without hoses. Have carried Road Morph the last couple of years.
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Old 12-07-18, 08:49 PM
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Have Road Morph Gs on 3 bikes. When I bought my Morphs there was available (might still be) an accessory offset mounting bracket allowing the pump to share the bottle cage mounts with another item.
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Originally Posted by daoswald
I second the Topeak Morph pumps. I have the Morph Mini (no gauge). On my road bike it was mounted under my down tube. On my hybrid it is mounted on a seat stay.
I should have mentioned, on my road bike I now use a Lezyne Road Elite pump. Still have a Mini Morph on my hybrid.

The morph is easier to use, the Lezyne is lighter and prettier.
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I think some of the choice between a "foot" type on bike pump and a "frame fit/hand held" pump is the hands doing the work. Having used HPXs for a long time, and watched many also use them and other "classic" frame pumps, is that it's the pumping that's the challenge. Many are not able to support the pump head, as it's attached to the valve, and get full strokes ae the pressures get up there. I've watched people do all kinds of positioning to better keep the valve from being seriously wagged back and forth. I've seek more then a few valves torn out of the tube or bent. Mostly I see riders continue on with too little pressure, making the choice to only carry one tube questionable.

So if you have small or less then strong hands I suggest a ground supported hose attached pump. Andy (who started his riding with a Zefal Comp and blew a tire off the rim from too much air one time)
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I used to swear by my Silca Impero until I got a Topeak Morph. Now I have 4 of the Morph pumps in attached to my fleet.

You can have my Morph pump when you pry it from my cold dead hands. They're that good.
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I have had several topeak morphs, and ran one for years on my daily commuter. I thought it was great until it needed a rebuild. Product support at that time was almost non-existent. (may have improved I have been told). I eventually found some green refrigerant o-rings at the auto-parts store that fit. My last morph now sits on the shelf and the commuter has a Zefal HPx.

The other day we had a hand truck at work that has tubeless pneumatic tires that needed the bead set. We talked various options, I put the Zefal HPx on it and gave it aggressive rapid strokes and surprised my self when the tire set and developed pressure.

Coming to work in the dark and fog the other morning I ran over a freshly crushed glass bottle. I saw the reflection a half second before I heard the crunchy grit. Flatted both tires within in a block. So to Andy's point I have decided that I will now always carry two tubes instead of one. Its not the first time.
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My recent experience with Topeak product support was completely acceptable.
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Originally Posted by wingless
My recent experience with Topeak product support was completely acceptable.
Same. Replacement bits seem readily available.https://www.topeak.com/global/en/products/service-kit
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The Topeak. It is easy to repair when the o-ring wears out.
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Any of the Topeak Morphs are good quality, mainly just match the one you need relative to your tire size for best efficiency (Mountain morph and Turbo Morph are larger, better suited to higher volume tires). All of them will pump to high pressure with reasonable effort, IME. I have gone back to more traditional frame pumps on a couple of my road bikes, the Zefal HPX is a classic that works very well. I have to admit I use the Zefal for its old school looks and design as much as anything, but it does work very well. Like the Morphs from Topeak, high pressure can be achieved with reasonable effort, IME..
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