Catching the draft... how close is too close?
07-14-20, 11:25 PM
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You dont think it is a bit excessive - responding to bad etiquette by doing something that may cause them to crash?
If it bothered me that much, i would just tell them so. I wouldnt engage in behavior that might cause someone else to crash and get hurt. I dont mean to cause offense, but in all honesty, this sounds like an incredibly nasty thing to do to someone else and seems more a case of spoiling for a fight. Following someone's wheel doesnt warrant this kind of response, IMO.
If it bothered me that much, i would just tell them so. I wouldnt engage in behavior that might cause someone else to crash and get hurt. I dont mean to cause offense, but in all honesty, this sounds like an incredibly nasty thing to do to someone else and seems more a case of spoiling for a fight. Following someone's wheel doesnt warrant this kind of response, IMO.
07-14-20, 11:43 PM
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It's all about consent. If you're a responsible cyclist, having someone on your wheel imposes a number of requirements on you - holding your line, not suddenly standing up and throwing the bike backwards, calling out hazards, warning if you're slowing, etc. Maybe I don't feel like being responsible for somebody else's safety right then.
If you don't mind people hooking on, more power to you. But it's not a requirement that you accept it.
If you don't mind people hooking on, more power to you. But it's not a requirement that you accept it.
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07-15-20, 02:02 AM
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I see that ALL the time with couples here, the worst part is, sometimes they get lost and can't find their way home!
I ride next to my wife, its better that way! (or behind, if there is traffic)
I ride next to my wife, its better that way! (or behind, if there is traffic)
Also it's awesome that you were in Suzhou. I've been there for work.
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07-15-20, 02:28 AM
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It's all about consent. If you're a responsible cyclist, having someone on your wheel imposes a number of requirements on you - holding your line, not suddenly standing up and throwing the bike backwards, calling out hazards, warning if you're slowing, etc. Maybe I don't feel like being responsible for somebody else's safety right then.
07-15-20, 05:31 AM
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07-15-20, 05:52 AM
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Here's another one. Maybe I should start another thread of antics on the bike. In a group, and you hit a hill. The group bunches up, so riders front back and both sides of you. Reach over to a rider next to you and just slightly ahead of you. Grab the seat rail with your finger and slightly let off the pressure on your pedals. Then relase from his saddle. The ither rider will look down at his bike and wonder wtf just happened.
07-15-20, 06:47 AM
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The "pale woman with the crushed soul" comment got me thinking. This one will "throw" you guys into a tizzy. I often see a woman riding well behind a single guy or several guys and realize they are "together". Really bugs me to see this. I really enjoy having women in the group on a ride. Soooo, if I ride upon this situation I like to ride up next to the woman and anounce, "just keep ridiing straight." I put a hand on their butt and push them along and accelerate, then push them off. This sends me back a bit. Then I accelerate, tell them to hold on, come past, put out my hand on their butt and give them a good sling, Madison style. Drop back and repeat until they regain contact with the group. Its all in good fun. The women love it. No one has complained. So have at it, just how awful is my behavior? Have I broken all rider etiquette?
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07-15-20, 06:55 AM
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07-15-20, 08:27 AM
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The "pale woman with the crushed soul" comment got me thinking. This one will "throw" you guys into a tizzy. I often see a woman riding well behind a single guy or several guys and realize they are "together". Really bugs me to see this. I really enjoy having women in the group on a ride. Soooo, if I ride upon this situation I like to ride up next to the woman and anounce, "just keep ridiing straight." I put a hand on their butt and push them along and accelerate, then push them off. This sends me back a bit. Then I accelerate, tell them to hold on, come past, put out my hand on their butt and give them a good sling, Madison style. Drop back and repeat until they regain contact with the group. Its all in good fun. The women love it. No one has complained. So have at it, just how awful is my behavior? Have I broken all rider etiquette?
07-15-20, 08:35 AM
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There is a difference between not actively calling out hazards and stuff, and actively taking a line that poses a risk to the person behind you. If someone follows me un-asked, I will ride the same line that I would were i alone, including last-minute swerving if i saw something unexpected. What I would NOT do is deliberately try to f**k over the guy behind me. There is a big difference between "not going out of your way to point out hazards" and "actively trying to hurt the guy behind you".
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07-15-20, 09:46 AM
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Whats with the hostility on the forum. I work hard all week. On the weekend I ride to have fun.
07-15-20, 09:56 AM
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I was on a group ride, yes just jumped in, and a woman gets a flat. Half the group continues to ride a quarter mile or so before word gets to them that someone flatted. So the woman, me and 6 or 7 other guys stop to help her out. She's never fixed a flat the other dudes are like, I've done it once, then I chime in, well I've done maybe a thousand(worked at bike shop) . Grabbed the wheel and changed out the tube. And we're on our way. So see how nice it is to have a guy jump into your group. Oh and then about 2 miles down the road they drop me.
07-15-20, 10:42 AM
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WTAF.
Do not put your hand on another rider. I can't believe this needs to be said.
Do not put your hand on another rider. I can't believe this needs to be said.
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07-15-20, 11:48 AM
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Where are you guys from and what sort of riding do you do? I read these forums a few years ago and it was a bunch of die-hard bike geeks. What happened?
I'm pretty much down to riding weekends only and I like mixing it up. Drop into a paceline. Might see someone I know. Gotta give him a bump, shake, pat on the back.
07-15-20, 12:30 PM
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Geez, this is starting to remind me of Sexual Harassment Training: "Hey, I'm a hugger!", "Hey, it's a compliment!", "She was laughing with the rest of us", and that ever popular, "We're different here. We need this loose atmosphere to perform!"
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You never put a hand out to tell another rider you are beside/behind him? Did that just the other day. I guess with Covid shaking hands it out. But at the end of a ride you dont reach over and shake a hand or two. Heck, take some food out of a buddies back pocket. Put an arm around an old riding buddy.
Where are you guys from and what sort of riding do you do? I read these forums a few years ago and it was a bunch of die-hard bike geeks. What happened?
I'm pretty much down to riding weekends only and I like mixing it up. Drop into a paceline. Might see someone I know. Gotta give him a bump, shake, pat on the back.
Where are you guys from and what sort of riding do you do? I read these forums a few years ago and it was a bunch of die-hard bike geeks. What happened?
I'm pretty much down to riding weekends only and I like mixing it up. Drop into a paceline. Might see someone I know. Gotta give him a bump, shake, pat on the back.
07-15-20, 01:35 PM
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Some joke out there, but it's not coming to me about 'how many guy cyclists does it take to fix a woman's flat?'... Anyone know how that goes?
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Besides, with freewheels today being so darn loud, all you have to do is roll up on someone and stop pedaling for a moment. They'll hear you!
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