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Does frame bags damage electronics thru vibration?

Old 09-21-20, 07:31 AM
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Does frame bags damage electronics thru vibration?

I just found out about this forum so first of all, hello everyone!

As my topic name says, are those frame bags, or any kind of bike bags safe for mobiles? I heard that vibration can kill your device and saw some super pricey anti-shock mounts, wanted to ask then.. I have a frame bag with a waterproof phone sleeve inside it. Would it be safe to use as my phone holder?

If not, do you have any advices?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 09-21-20, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by consoflight
I just found out about this forum so first of all, hello everyone!

As my topic name says, are those frame bags, or any kind of bike bags safe for mobiles? I heard that vibration can kill your device and saw some super pricey anti-shock mounts, wanted to ask then.. I have a frame bag with a waterproof phone sleeve inside it. Would it be safe to use as my phone holder?

If not, do you have any advices?

Thanks in advance!
A phone in a frame bag isn't being subjected to "vibrations" really. The bag is already a "anti-shock mount" ("shocks" are "hard knocks"). The things in the bag will move around but not "shockingly".

The "super pricey anti-shock mounts" are meant to make the phone visible while riding. They aren't necessarily any more anti-shock than a frame bag.

Nothing is going to be as safe as leaving the phone at home but using a frame bag is fine (not a bad option at all).

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Old 09-21-20, 10:24 AM
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my experience from 17 years of bike commuting indicates that it is not a problem.

I used panniers for commuting, and always carried a Palm Pilot or iPod or an inexpensive Android phone. Never had any issues with any of them, and some of the roads were in bad shape. Of course, the pannier had plenty of other stuff in it, and that helps provide some additional mass that reduces the acceleration that the bag experiences.

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Old 09-21-20, 11:57 AM
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You'll be the first person I know of that ever ask about this in all my years on various forums and bulletin boards since before cell phones where even a thing.

I've always found cell phones pretty rugged with respect to vibration. Even a high tolerance to impact too if the screen isn't part of the impact.

For me I feel my phone is safe in my rear center pocket on my jersey. I've had thee crashes in 20 years and it survived there quite well. Otherwise any bike bag will be fine. Mounting on your bars will be the least desirable for me, but not for vibration. Just the chance that it will get knocked off and I'll have to go backtrack and retrieve it.

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Old 09-21-20, 08:31 PM
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Nah. In the 1970s I carried a 35mm SLR camera kit in a Kirtland Tour Pack handlebar bag for hundreds of miles. No problems. Modern electronics are much more resistant to shock and vibration than old school SLRs with flippy mirrors and cloth or metal focal plane shutters -- and the best of those cameras were already considered pretty tough for that era. But phones, digital cameras, portable audio gear, etc., have almost no moving parts.
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Old 09-22-20, 06:18 AM
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Yes. I stopped carrying anything delicate in frame bags on my mountain bike because of this. On a road bike I don't think it's a problem unless you like riding pave.

Now I put everything on my backpack and I avoid my multi-tool getting loose (or even fully disassembled), my pump lasts way more, and there's way less noise while riding.

When I carried things on a saddle bag, I usually put the keys there. Once I retrieved my keys after a ride only to discover my mailbox key was split in half longitudinally. Metal fatigue because of the vibrations I assume (and probably low quality metal too).
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Oh ok then I got it it is quite safe.

I alwasys carried my phone in my frame bag, it just bricked and the service said that it could be due to vibration so just wanted to ask it out.

So, I'll consider that as a bad luck (hopefully).

Thanks everyone!

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Originally Posted by consoflight
Oh ok then I got it it is quite safe.

I always carried my phone in my frame bag, it just bricked and the service said that it could be due to vibration so just wanted to ask it out.

So, I'll consider that as a bad luck (hopefully).

Thanks everyone!

Best.
It could have bricked because of it (nothing is going to be 100% safe). Lots of people carry phones in frame bags (or similar). It's possible that carry the phone in your back pocket is better but it could pop out (especially, if you crash).
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Old 10-01-20, 11:14 AM
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I've never had an issue simply from vibration damaging my electronics. My phone typically lives in my jersey pocket so it's not the same as you ask. My example is my old GoPro Session, while riding The DAMn, I put my GoPro in a handlebar bag to charge. You can see that the vibration did a lot of damage to the screen. The screen is replicable so it was a minor issue, but a good lesson about how a little sand and vibration can damage items.


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If I had one of the super-cheap no-name phones, I might worry about vibration but not with any of the major names. I've used an iphone 8 in a quadlock case on a rigid mount for more than 10,000 miles on both a road bike and mountain bike and never worried or experienced any issues due to vibration. A frame bag would be cushy in comparison.
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