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Old 05-03-19, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Talk.

Norcal roadies riding in circles... Atmospheric variation... Aren't gonna catch me...

So far @redlude97 is the only one who posted an average speed, distance or elevation.

If someone's road bike can beat up my fixed gear then testify.

Post a screen cap or go to the back and have a gel or something.


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Are you being serious now?

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Originally Posted by rubiksoval
Are you being serious now?

I think he is.
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I've been on group rides with a fixie rider who had no trouble on the climbs or the flats. I've done a few with my Bianchi San Jose, even climbed Monte Sano. My fixed gear ratio is 42-17. When it was time to come down, I flipped the rear wheel so I could coast.


Steepest part is over 9% through some S-curves.

My freewheel gearing is 42-18. My fixed gear bike also has front and rear brakes.

I once built a fixie with a double chainring and a Surly Dingle double cog on one side and a freewheel cog on the other side. I had 6 gear ratios to choose from although I only tried the cross-chain options when I first set up the bike to see if it could be done. The frame had a long wheelbase and long dropouts which made it possible.
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Does the UCI allow fixed gears at road races?
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Originally Posted by bbattle
I've been on group rides with a fixie rider who had no trouble on the climbs or the flats. I've done a few with my Bianchi San Jose, even climbed Monte Sano. My fixed gear ratio is 42-17. When it was time to come down, I flipped the rear wheel so I could coast.

Steepest part is over 9% through some S-curves.

My freewheel gearing is 42-18. My fixed gear bike also has front and rear brakes.

I once built a fixie with a double chainring and a Surly Dingle double cog on one side and a freewheel cog on the other side. I had 6 gear ratios to choose from although I only tried the cross-chain options when I first set up the bike to see if it could be done. The frame had a long wheelbase and long dropouts which made it possible.
I have done quite a few group rides and events on a fixed gear. If the terrain is moderate it isn't too much of a handicap, but if you start getting extended climbs/descents of 10% percent or more you just can't hold on. Even favourable fast conditions like tail winds or mild downhills you are in trouble if the group starts hammering it. This can easily put you at 150rpm + for mile after mile which for me certainly isn't doable. You may well be required to be putting out a reasonable amount of power too so its not like your legs are freewheeling around.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
My road bike has chunks of fixies like yours in its stool.
Chunk this, rOaDiE

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Tim why dont you just pin on a number? If you're interest in comparing your fitness its best to do it against those who are on the same page as you.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
Does the UCI allow fixed gears at road races?
Ha! No one would use one. It'd be pointless. It was bad enough for Aqua Blue trying to run 1x. This would be 11x worse.

At one point it was allowed in time trials. It still may be. I remember Mike Creed winning U23 national TTs in Texas on a fixed gear. He obliterated everyone.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Chunk this, rOaDiE
As was stated above, pin a number on.

And get back to us when you've HTFU and done some actual climbing.


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Originally Posted by indyfabz
My road bike has chunks of fixies like yours in its stool.

Tim's trainer fixed gear can beat up your road bike, nevermind the Rodriguez! lol.

https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/2015-...a-chrome-25191

I have ridden behind it a few times, usually while wearing sunglasses
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Originally Posted by bonsai171
Tim's trainer fixed gear can beat up your road bike, nevermind the Rodriguez! lol.

https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/2015-...a-chrome-25191

I have ridden behind it a few times, usually while wearing sunglasses
You're comparing a Pista to a custom Ti? Okaay.
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Lean them both against a wall, step back, & see which one moves first & furthest ..
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Tim why dont you just pin on a number? If you're interest in comparing your fitness its best to do it against those who are on the same page as you.
IIRC, he has competed in some gravel races recently. Maybe he'll post his results.
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IIRC, he has competed in some gravel races recently. Maybe he'll post his results.
Fixed gravel? If so mucho kudos to Tim.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
You're comparing a Pista to a custom Ti? Okaay.
It's campy! forget about that dura ace stuff ;-)
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Timothy, does my single speed count? 53-15

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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Chunk this, rOaDiE


Did you stop for lunch and a nap or something? Why the 1:30 hour difference in time?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
As was stated above, pin a number on.

And get back to us when you've HTFU and done some actual climbing.


All I see in your post are photos of pretty scenery. How about you quantify "real climbing" with some numbers of your own?


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Let's change gears for a moment.

(see what I did there?)

This thread isn't about the riders but the bikes and the superior aesthetic, efficiency and capability of a fixed gear bike over a geared bike is undeniable.

Many examples can be given. Look at this drivetrain...



Comparing a burly 1/8" fixed gear drivetrain with a road bike's anorexic 3/32" drivetrain is like comparing a big block Chevy with your younger sister's pollution controlled Kia. At the same time, the fixed gear drivetrain lacks flaccid appendages and Rube Goldberg actuators which make geared bikes inefficient, expensive and time consuming.

Ask your financial advisor which makes more sense - a $16 cog or a $60 cassette. Ask an engineer which makes more sense - a heavy and complex systems of pulleys, levers and cables or a light and durable fixed gear system. Ask you wife which drivetrain she would prefer you to maintain - a simple fixed gear which allows more time for the family or a complex drivetrain which keeps you in the garage all day. Don't you love your chidren enough to want to spend time with them?

And the fact that the pro racing industry frowns upon or outright bans fixed gear bikes from direct competition with geared bikes is telling. Their superior performance would instantly expose the geared bike for what it is - one of the greatest scams ever perpetrated on consumers. My guess is that Specialized and Trek would instantly cut their workforce by 75% the day after a fixed gear runs in a pro tour.

I could go on. Frames, comfort, weight, pleasing lines. It's obvious to anyone with eyes to see.


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I would get a single-speed if I could find one that has a back cog with the same number of teeth as the front.
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What is interesting is a lot of national teams are using road chains because that is where the technology is right now. Road chains have a lot less friction than a 1/8 inch chain.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Let's change gears for a moment.

(see what I did there?)

This thread isn't about the riders but the bikes and the superior aesthetic, efficiency and capability of a fixed gear bike over a geared bike is undeniable.

Many examples can be given. Look at this drivetrain...



Comparing a burly 1/8" fixed gear drivetrain with a road bike's anorexic 3/32" drivetrain is like comparing a big block Chevy with your younger sister's pollution controlled Kia. At the same time, the fixed gear drivetrain lacks flaccid appendages and Rube Goldberg actuators which make geared bikes inefficient, expensive and time consuming.

Ask your financial advisor which makes more sense - a $16 cog or a $60 cassette. Ask an engineer which makes more sense - a heavy and complex systems of pulleys, levers and cables or a light and durable fixed gear system. Ask you wife which drivetrain she would prefer you to maintain - a simple fixed gear which allows more time for the family or a complex drivetrain which keeps you in the garage all day. Don't you love your chidren enough to want to spend time with them?

And the fact that the pro racing industry frowns upon or outright bans fixed gear bikes from direct competition with geared bikes is telling. Their superior performance would instantly expose the geared bike for what it is - one of the greatest scams ever perpetrated on consumers. My guess is that Specialized and Trek would instantly cut their workforce by 75% the day after a fixed gear runs in a pro tour.

I could go on. Frames, comfort, weight, pleasing lines. It's obvious to anyone with eyes to see.


-Tim-
Why run gears on your gravel bike then? Plenty of SS MTBs tearing it up on the trails out there you should start a new trend with fixie gravel.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Let's change gears for a moment.

(see what I did there?)

This thread isn't about the riders but the bikes and the superior aesthetic, efficiency and capability of a fixed gear bike over a geared bike is undeniable.

Many examples can be given. Look at this drivetrain...



Comparing a burly 1/8" fixed gear drivetrain with a road bike's anorexic 3/32" drivetrain is like comparing a big block Chevy with your younger sister's pollution controlled Kia. At the same time, the fixed gear drivetrain lacks flaccid appendages and Rube Goldberg actuators which make geared bikes inefficient, expensive and time consuming.

Ask your financial advisor which makes more sense - a $16 cog or a $60 cassette. Ask an engineer which makes more sense - a heavy and complex systems of pulleys, levers and cables or a light and durable fixed gear system. Ask you wife which drivetrain she would prefer you to maintain - a simple fixed gear which allows more time for the family or a complex drivetrain which keeps you in the garage all day. Don't you love your chidren enough to want to spend time with them?

And the fact that the pro racing industry frowns upon or outright bans fixed gear bikes from direct competition with geared bikes is telling. Their superior performance would instantly expose the geared bike for what it is - one of the greatest scams ever perpetrated on consumers. My guess is that Specialized and Trek would instantly cut their workforce by 75% the day after a fixed gear runs in a pro tour.

I could go on. Frames, comfort, weight, pleasing lines. It's obvious to anyone with eyes to see.


-Tim-
This the as isnt about the riders?! You sure fooled a lot of players into thinking it was about the riders since, you know, you made it about the riders.

A fixed gear is more capable than a geared bike? Huh? Some can ride a fixed gear just as well as others can ride geared bikes, but there is a reason geared bikes are so popular...their versatility and ability to open up more riding options for most riders.

Bringing $ into this by claimi my a single cog is financially smarter than a cassette is a terrible argument. Don't ever make it again since its absurd when you are riding a custom frame. Ask your accountant which makes more sense- a $200 used road bike or a $3500 fixed gear.
hmm...that argument of yours doesnt help you.

My wife couldn't care less which drivetrain I have as it pertains to time spent on maintenance. Just like i dont care about unimportant details as it pertains to time she spends on her hobbies.

As for my kids- both of them like working on their bikes(in limited amounts) and the shifting drivetrain is what fascinates them the most. The interaction between cable, derailleur, and chain is fun for them. I wpuld miss out of time with my kids if we didn't have multi-geared drivetrains. Why do you want my kids to lose out of family time? <---that question is just as dumb as your accusation.


As has now been said to you- if geared bikes are a scam, then get rid of yours. It would be inconsistent to ride sonething you think is a scam. Looks like that di2 gravel bike is in hot need of a conversion.
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