Am I crazy?
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Here's the thing. If I were going to get another bike, I'd get the SLR 7 with everything I want except the nicer wheels. Based on prices I have been quoted for the bike less my trade, I'd be looking at around $5300 for the SLR 7. All of that just to save .8 lbs! And at the $5300, I would still want the XXX4 wheels for another 2k. Now I'm looking $7300. I can take my bike, add the Di2 shifting and the XXX4 wheels for $3600 and shave .23 lbs from it's current weight. I can't justify spending 5300-7300 to save 1lb. of weight. Make sense? See, that is why I originally asked if "I was crazy", it cost considerably more money to buy a new bike vs upgrading my 1 year old bike.
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Let me put some context in this, I’m selling an almost new Cervelo S3 disc with Bontrager 5 D3 and Dura Ace mechanical for less than what your upgrade cost is... and so far no takers. So $3200 is a lot of dough for just an upgrade.
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Here's the thing. If I were going to get another bike, I'd get the SLR 7 with everything I want except the nicer wheels. Based on prices I have been quoted for the bike less my trade, I'd be looking at around $5300 for the SLR 7. All of that just to save .8 lbs! And at the $5300, I would still want the XXX4 wheels for another 2k. Now I'm looking $7300. I can take my bike, add the Di2 shifting and the XXX4 wheels for $3600 and shave .23 lbs from it's current weight. I can't justify spending 5300-7300 to save 1lb. of weight. Make sense? See, that is why I originally asked if "I was crazy", it cost considerably more money to buy a new bike vs upgrading my 1 year old bike.
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What size? Somebody else reading this thread might want it.
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OP, if you rode a 54 that's an incredible bike.
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di2 is all good until it's not.
For the record, I've been riding di2 for six years and am currently on my second group set.
When my first di2 group set (2013 ultegra di2) became problematic after ~20k miles, once I rode 25 miles home with the biggest gear 54 x 28 (rear derailleur failure). Another time, I had ride through 10 miles of rolling hills with the smallest gear 34 x 11 due to another rear derailleur failure.
I had no complaints since it's over 20k miles. I went ahead and got DA R9100 di2.
For the record, I've been riding di2 for six years and am currently on my second group set.
When my first di2 group set (2013 ultegra di2) became problematic after ~20k miles, once I rode 25 miles home with the biggest gear 54 x 28 (rear derailleur failure). Another time, I had ride through 10 miles of rolling hills with the smallest gear 34 x 11 due to another rear derailleur failure.
I had no complaints since it's over 20k miles. I went ahead and got DA R9100 di2.
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Ever thought of going Titanium? Honestly with the kind of coin you are willing to spend I'd bee looking at Lynskey or another good Ti brand. Sell that nice carbon steed and go titanium. I think you are throwing money at something you won't be happy with long term. If you are not getting enjoyment out of your nice carbon bike without spending another $3000 in upgrades something is seriously wrong. That carbon bike won't be worth much in the long run either which is why if you are really willing to spend, a nice titanium bike is better imo. I'd sell the carbon bike while it still has some value since they depreciate fast.
Also Di2 has had issues with batteries not sure if that is solved. Don't forget to recharge them and bring a spare. To me it's just another thing that can fail.
Also Di2 has had issues with batteries not sure if that is solved. Don't forget to recharge them and bring a spare. To me it's just another thing that can fail.
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Get what you want, it's your money. I don't mind spending money on my bike in ways that others may find wasteful b/c I think biking is about the most enjoyment I can get out of my money. If those upgrades get you riding more or enhance your enjoyment, go for it.
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Crazy?
Maybe. Maybe not.
It depends on what else is going in in your financial life, which is none of our business.
Maybe. Maybe not.
It depends on what else is going in in your financial life, which is none of our business.
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di2 is all good until it's not.
For the record, I've been riding di2 for six years and am currently on my second group set.
When my first di2 group set (2013 ultegra di2) became problematic after ~20k miles, once I rode 25 miles home with the biggest gear 54 x 28 (rear derailleur failure). Another time, I had ride through 10 miles of rolling hills with the smallest gear 34 x 11 due to another rear derailleur failure.
I had no complaints since it's over 20k miles. I went ahead and got DA R9100 di2.
For the record, I've been riding di2 for six years and am currently on my second group set.
When my first di2 group set (2013 ultegra di2) became problematic after ~20k miles, once I rode 25 miles home with the biggest gear 54 x 28 (rear derailleur failure). Another time, I had ride through 10 miles of rolling hills with the smallest gear 34 x 11 due to another rear derailleur failure.
I had no complaints since it's over 20k miles. I went ahead and got DA R9100 di2.
When Di2 was first released I expected it to have many bugs, but most of the early problems were from user error(and poorly trained mechanics). Now that most higher end bikes have internal routing, Di2 is nearly trouble free.
For a home mechanic that doesn't have the proper cable/wire routing tools, installation is a little tricky. For a professional, Di2 installation is no big deal.
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Your experience with Di2 is very unusual. I've worked on hundreds of Di2 equipped bikes, and the only failures I've seen are batteries with the first generation, and one first generation Ultegra rear derailleur.
When Di2 was first released I expected it to have many bugs, but most of the early problems were from user error(and poorly trained mechanics). Now that most higher end bikes have internal routing, Di2 is nearly trouble free.
For a home mechanic that doesn't have the proper cable/wire routing tools, installation is a little tricky. For a professional, Di2 installation is no big deal.
When Di2 was first released I expected it to have many bugs, but most of the early problems were from user error(and poorly trained mechanics). Now that most higher end bikes have internal routing, Di2 is nearly trouble free.
For a home mechanic that doesn't have the proper cable/wire routing tools, installation is a little tricky. For a professional, Di2 installation is no big deal.
As I said, I'm satisfied with the durability of the 2013 ultegra di2. As a result, I upgraded to DA R9100 di2.
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My first ultegra di2 set came with 2013 Cannondale Evo. I had premium bike shops do overhaul once/twice a year. Our of curiosity, among the hundreds di2 you worked with, how many had >~20k miles + ~1.5 million ft climbing?
As I said, I'm satisfied with the durability of the 2013 ultegra di2. As a result, I upgraded to DA R9100 di2.
As I said, I'm satisfied with the durability of the 2013 ultegra di2. As a result, I upgraded to DA R9100 di2.
I didn't think you were unhappy with Di2, I was just pointing out that having multiple failures was a little out of the norm.
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Probably have not worked with enough di2s.....
https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...caution-2.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-m...-charging.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/professio...age-9-a-2.html
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https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...caution-2.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-m...-charging.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/professio...age-9-a-2.html
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The OP never posted how the issue was solved,
https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycl...s-caution.html
again, The OP never posted how the issue was solved,
https://www.bikeforums.net/professio...stage-9-a.html
Did you even read this thread?
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That said, I'm 99% as happy riding my manual ultegra allez.
#46
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I recently bought a gently used Giant TCR with Ultegra Di2 and I love it. It shifts so much better than the 105 triple on the Fuji Roubaix is replacing ever did...
200 miles in and I haven't found a bad thing to say about it yet :-)
200 miles in and I haven't found a bad thing to say about it yet :-)
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I have a one year old Trek SL 6 Pro but really like the electronic shifting (Di2). My local shop gave me a price of $1400 to do the upgrade. I also want to upgrade from the Aeolus Pro 3 wheels to the Aeolus XXX4 since they will be on "sale". Bottom line is I'm dumping $3,600 including tax into it. It is still cheaper than selling/trading and then buying a new bike.
well imo if the mechs are working there is no real reason to swap it.
the mechs are working as they should for about 20 years usually if you oil them.
there is no real reason to swap to electric mech unless you/your biked shop is very severely incompentent in settiung up mech gears. and then there is no real guaratee they will be able to set up the electric ones for you. hey its even a lesser chance of that happening!
i want to tell you about wheels. they dont actually make you slower of faster. its all in your head. talking commercially available ones. you might see 1-2 maybe 3 seconds faster in 15-30 minutes. you are fooling yourself if you think this will make you faster. an aero wheel will make you maybe 2km/h faster at 300w and a 60mm aero wheel will make you 2,5-3km/h faster at the same output. (scientifically proven)
so you might just as well put aero wheels on the bike you already have. then again does 2km/h matter to you with your bike? maybe it dopes maybe it doesn't. i for one dont give a flying F.