hairnet

It's beautiful until one guy passes out 10 meters from the finish line

I think it's similar to runner's high. I only experienced it once on the bike and that was at like 3am near the end of a 24hr ride. We were on the wide open PCH, I was soaked from rain and I wasn't wearing my eye glasses because they were all smudged up. I was essentially riding blind and just followed a few red lights (my friends' rear lights) when I ended up in this euphoric tunnel vision. That experience drew me in to attempt a second 24hr ride a few months later but nothing happened. That makes me wonder what causes this state of mind or whatever it is to initiate. Why is it less likely to happen while riding a bike than when one goes for a run (assuming it is common enough to have its own term)? I have only experienced it a hand full of times but each instance occurred during a mentally and physically trying time.

SquidPuppet

Party over, back to reality.

I think both are mandatory ingredients for the recipe, and that they must occur simultaneously.

It's all about the drugs. The ones your body makes.

https://www.runnersworld.com/running...a-runners-high

SquidPuppet

A couple weeks ago I discovered what I believed was an error on the Compass site. I suspected that they had transposed the weights listed for the Barlow Pass and the Snoqualmie Pass. I contacted them and ask if it was a typo or if the 38s actually weighed more than the 44s. They confirmed that they were surprised too, that numbers listed were correct, and went on to explain the oddity. They said that the new 44s arrived lighter than they expected, so they started working with Panaracer to get the 38s down, to fall in between the 35s and 44s like they should.

The reason I bring this up is, it's actually good news for you once your current tires wear out. The next batch of Barlows should be significantly lighter. At least that's what they are working towards. Or, if your frame allows, you could move up to 44s and still reduce a lot of weight. That would be a soft and speedy ride.

This is what caught my eye and prompted me to contact them. 1/4 lb less for a larger tire???

Barlow 38mm. Standard and EL, 461 and 417 grams
Snoqualmie 44mm. Standard and EL, 378 and 329 grams

bikesailor

I wanted to give Compass tires a try and support their concept but the 32mm aren't tubeless ready and 35mm tires are tubeless ready but saw a review in Cyclocross mag in 8/16 that said they were difficult to setup tubeless and after finally getting them to seat they have sealant seepage thru the sidewalls. So I went with Schwalbe G-1's in both 30mm for road & 35mm for off road. They setup tubeless very easy and ride great.

SquidPuppet

And because I am a truly obnoxious shill, I'm going to quote myself.

Evidently I wasn't hallucinating.






And they tested the standard casing, not the "Extralight", which is even faster.




https://janheine.wordpress.com/?mc_c...eid=c50240ab6e

SCRcat6

And, according to Jan, they tested the tires without a rider. Which in theory, should make the wider tires even faster when laden with the weight of a rider.

Fahrenheit531 

Damn you to hell, @SquidPuppet. I thought this thread would free me from the Compa$$ temptation, but NO. You freaking made it worse.


Thanks.

ThermionicScott 

That's gonna be my new glib response when someone asks why I ride a bike.

SquidPuppet

Glad to be of service.

It's worth the price of admission just to experience how weird they are. At least once. It's like, "Why, why, why, why, didn't I feel that? I saw it. I know I ran over it. Why???......"

Scottybigs 

Yea, they've locked up my tire dollars for, I dunno, 2 more decades. Why would I ever buy 90$ Vittoria's?

Carcosa

Miss my Bon Jons... Thinking about going to the Steilacoom though next.

Has anyone here set up either tubeless?

rumrunn6

last yr I spent $100 on tires for a $50 beater bike

rumrunn6

& still no photos? come on man, don't you know some of us can't read?

Carcosa

I mean. If you insist.

Forklifter

Wait what actually popped the tire?

Wspsux

For me it was sharp rocky single track that finally popped my extra lights.

AlmostTrick

I've been riding the regular version (in 28 and 32) for 3 years now on 3 bikes. They are so light and supple that I saw no reason to try the extra lights. I figured I didn't need sidewalls even more flimsy.

dim

that graph is wrong

No ways are GP 4000 SII faster than Specialized Turbo Cottons ..... not in a million years ... I have a pair mounted on my daily commuter and will get them again (and again) .... it's like comparing chalk with cheese .... The Cotton's are amazing tyres (1365 Km so far .... one puncture that would have punctured a tractor tyre and these are fast, grip like glue in the dry and the wet and make you want to ride faster)

SquidPuppet

You are reading it backwards.

dim

UltraManDan

Since I don't speak German very well, this is a graph of Rolling Resistance, correct? So the less resistance a tire has, the faster it is, making the Vittoria Corsa Speed Open the fastest tire depicted in this graph?

SquidPuppet

Ja, das ist richtig.

UltraManDan

Danke! (I had to google that) lol

Wileyone 

People like to say they run as nice as the Tubs. But they do not.

bikiola

Love this thread and especially @SquidPuppet's writing as well!

Has anyone had specific experiences with the 26x2.3" tires - the Rat Trap? I would be using them (as my moniker indicates) in NYC for daily commuting and once the weather is nice, many tours around long island, the city and upstate (into Vermont).

Currently run Big Apples 26x2.35, which I actually really like, but they feel slow and sluggish. Was hoping to get these for faster more fun ride (I have no idea what supple actually means). My biggest concern is flats... Looking around the net, there's little about the wider tires and lots of complaining about the narrower (see this from another site: I'd try meth before running these tires again). So, please convince me! Life is short, I want the best ride I can get, but I can't have flats all the time on the way to work... Especially curious about standard/ultralight casing on the wider widths. Thanks in advance mates.

(EDIT - weird, my link to the r**t site was removed for some reason. if you're interested in that thread, something search for the phrase "Hands down the worst tires I've ridden: Compass Stampede Pass Extralights aka paperthins", its quite an interesting thread).